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My Papers? No Thank You

majer Wrote: Apr 27, 2012 10:32 AM
I don't understand all the fuss about "showing your papers." I'm married to a Canadian. He went through the immigration process to become a U.S. permanent resident and when his card arrived, it said plainly on the accompanying document, "You must carry this card on your person at all times." The card went into his wallet with his other identifying documents: social security card, driver's license, credit cards. Surely these illegal aliens must show ID when they cash a check. I do not believe that these illegals do not have any form of ID and NEVER need to show it. So what is the big deal about carrying a permanent residency card, unless you don't have one, in which case you have broken the law and are in the country illegally?
ericynot Wrote: Apr 27, 2012 10:44 AM
I was born here. I do not have a permanent residency card. Do you? Can you prove to me (or a cop) that you're a citizen?
DB07 Wrote: Apr 27, 2012 1:15 PM
Having been born here, you probably would not give a cop any reason (a requisit under the Az law) to ASK you to prove you citizenship!
Merry Colin in Arizona Wrote: Apr 27, 2012 1:46 PM
A driver license will do in this State. BTW ericynot, cops in AZ go by the law. If you have a license from another State or this State, you are assumed a legal citizen.

With the Supreme Court taking up Arizona's "show me your papers" immigration law, we're once again thrust into a useful debate over the role of the government and the obligations of the citizen -- and non-citizen. Rather than come at it from the usual angle, I thought I'd try something different.

If there were one thing I could impress upon people about the nature of the state, it's that governments by their very nature want to make their citizens "legible."

I borrow that word from James C. Scott, whose book "Seeing Like a State" left a lasting impression on me. Scott...