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Nuns Are Part of A Valuable Religious Debate

Mainman12 Wrote: Jun 23, 2012 7:47 AM
The nuns who protest the cuts in the Federal budget like many bishops as well misunderstand true 'social justice when they want to maintain or increase payments by the Federal Government to the poor, etc., for besides merely programs that have all failed over the last 50 years, all of them, such giving to Caesar is not Biblical. I'm a Catholic and I affirm all the Catholic Church teaches. But when Christ asked whose image was on the coin of the pharisees surrogate who replied Caesar; Jesus then answered, "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesars and Give unto God that which is God's." In all of Scripture God NEVER asked Caesar, and Caesar including the American Government to give to the poor, the sick, the hungry. NO!!! Christ told us...
Mainman12 Wrote: Jun 23, 2012 7:52 AM
Continued... No Christ told us as individuals and the Church to do these things. When we do and did them we built hospitals and all sorts of such related care. And were/are successful. When Government (Caesar) does them they fail. We have as many poor and homeless (more in fact) than ever. And the programs always fail. It only got to be a bit better when we started insisting those receiving had to work a little. These nuns are well intended but they are wrong and so are our entire federal give away programs.
soliton2 Wrote: Jun 23, 2012 9:01 AM
abrandenburg Wrote: Jun 23, 2012 9:10 AM
du2 Wrote: Jun 23, 2012 10:47 AM
I actually can't argue with you mainman. Except that the CC has a long, sad and serious history of human rights abuses. There is much misogynistic prejudice and systemic subjugation of those who are socially and economically weaker. The CC has been very influential in how gays and lesbians have been mistreated in this country regarding THEIR self reliance. There is a strong connection between the funding and influence in political action in this regard and the CC. The CC invokes Constitutional protection, while working to exclude certain other citizens from it's protections as well. Contradictory to the dictum of treating another as you'd be treated. Equality never hurt anyone, and the CC doesn't care about that where it matters.
MG formerly minnesotagrandma Wrote: Jun 23, 2012 4:03 PM
Wrong du
You've been sippiing too much kool aid. You want to see how an intolorant religion treats gays?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4725959.stm
All Catholics ask is that they leave US alone! There are many churches that will affirm their behavior as non sinful.
Starley Wrote: Jun 23, 2012 11:58 PM
I am not Catholic but have worked with CC. My experience was excellent. The nun was terrific about meeting immediate needs. Issues of faith and judgemental attitudes were non-existant. I see the same thing with the Salvation Army, Goodwill. They will help you to help yourself. My feeling is these programs do more to help people get on their feet than welfare ever has.

The warmth with which elderly Catholic nuns have been greeted on their cross-country bus tour to protest Republican cuts to the federal budget is hugely encouraging. The sisters and I may disagree about certain things, particularly the budget plan of Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan -- who is Catholic -- but what a blessed country we live in, where a major public argument centers on how to best care for the poor and unfortunate.

One reporter said the nuns were "greeted like heroes" outside Ryan's office. "For the sisters, the tour is about more than debating points," a Huffington Post dispatch said,...