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Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I would venture to say that the leadership of this country is a reflection of the majority of the voters. The people that voted them in are responsible, and the garbage in office could also be removed if we decided to.
mmatte ..... I think you are wrong. It will be the same as Hitler, Those smart enough to see the danger will be the first taken out. They will need dupes and useful idiots like David306 to pull the wagon.
I believe the life average life expectancy at that time was not 65, but 62 which means Thasic is right, it was never really intended to pay much. Just a few lucky people were going to collect, the rest of the population were to stand in line and be milked.
I don't know about you, but one wife is all I can handle. I am out-witted on a daily basis.
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Scrap Labor Day for 9/11 Day

MadisonWannabe Wrote: Sep 12, 2014 7:13 PM
Orth .... You normally do better than this. Your thinking stopped at the employee entrance this time. When the cost of labor goes up, the price of the product or service goes up to cover the increase in cost. Guess who pays this? Yup, you the consumer. This is why manufacturing is moving overseas, the selfish union member refuses to pay the additional cost to a member of a different union. The union jobs that are left here are the ones in construction, service industries, and government where there is no escape for you, the union member. You have to pay or go without. In government it is even worse- you pay or go to jail. Like another person posted, if you feel that badly for these Walmart or McDonalds employees who are there by choice you can always leave a tip.
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Scrap Labor Day for 9/11 Day

MadisonWannabe Wrote: Sep 12, 2014 7:13 PM
Orth .... You normally do better than this. Your thinking stopped at the employee entrance this time. When the cost of labor goes up, the price of the product or service goes up to cover the increase in cost. Guess who pays this? Yup, you the consumer. This is why manufacturing is moving overseas, the selfish union member refuses to pay the additional cost to a member of a different union. The union jobs that are left here are the ones in construction, service industries, and government where there is no escape for you, the union member. You have to pay or go without. In government it is even worse- you pay or go to jail. Like another person posted, if you feel that badly for these Walmart or McDonalds employees who are there by choice you can always leave a tip.
If you are going past the Capitol building just before noon, you can high five the union trash on their way in to sing to the union God. They are easy to identify, they look like people you would never hire.
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Cheap Politicians

MadisonWannabe Wrote: Sep 10, 2014 9:39 PM
Just a stray thought and a question. How much ( if anything) did we pay the founders of this country? Did we pay the Senators and Reps from the get-go? or did we start paying them in the 1800's or 1900's?
The taxes have gone down in Wi. and businesses are starting to look this way, but many companies want to see which way the wind is blowing before moving here. Two years of turmoil with the union morons and the recall fiasco has set us back. Even still there are simpletons singing and chanting daily. They show up at the capitol about noon every day and sing to their union Gods. Obviously this is the rubbish that got left behind without union protection. Our loss of Walker would be the country's gain, but I wonder if it is too little too late for this country. When half or better of the people of this country are nothing but parasites (Democrat of course) not much good can happen.
You had me in agreement until the second sentence. If your parent committed a crime of some sort, is it fair and proper to punish the children? This is the thought process of third world primitive tribal warfare.
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