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St Michael the Archangel Versus Al Gore

M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 10:27 AM
John, so many points, so little space. First, if you want to quote me in your Sunday blow off, please get it right. You did not include my next paragraph that said “All of these factors can lead to more severe storms and more coastal flooding. Events that were "100 year floods/droughts" will occur more often. Storm surges that had no effects before will now be more likely to cause flooding.” I know you like simple connections, unfortunately, science doesn’t work that way. Instead it deals with likelihood and increased probabilities. You suggest that Goldberg believes that hurricanes have not increased in number or strength...
1Falcon1 Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 4:50 PM
who cares WHAT you think your an idiot
John Ransom, Finance Editor Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 12:11 PM
If you are going to read and comment on my column Comrade Mikey you have to accept the price of admission. I read how TO once complained that he was misquoted in his autobiography. Congratulations Comrade: you and Number 81 have something in common.
M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 10:28 AM
The science in this area is not conclusive. While there does not seem to be any increase in numbers of events, there is a measured difference in strength. Measurements of the Power Dissipation Index (PDI) via satellite since the mid 70’s shows that the warmer ocean surface temperatures are indeed leading to stronger hurricanes.

The bigger problem you have, Ransom, is that you focus on an area where there is still uncertainty (the link between extreme weather events and global warming), to discredit an area of high certainty—that globe warming is occurring and is it caused by human activity.
M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 10:29 AM
I see, also, that you chose not to discuss the effect of global warming on snow melt in your area:

“Ransom can laugh about global warming on the east coast. He may not be as amused about its effects on the snow melt in the Rockies (http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/USGS-Study-Finds-Recent-Snowpack-Declines-in-the-Rocky-Mountains-Unusual-Compared-to-Past-Few-Centuries.cfm)”

Finally, you seem fixated on Al Gore. I don’t care about Al Gore, never have. He has never done any science in this area and serves only as a punching bag for people (like you) who believe if you can discredit Al Gore than you have disproved the science he has presented. Sorry, global warming is not personality-driven, it is based on the evidence.
rickmcq Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 10:32 AM
" an area of high certainty—that globe warming is occurring and is it caused by human activity."

For all of your points, you miss the main conclusion - there is no such "high certainty."
Vader!*#% Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 11:14 AM
I don't care about Al either nor do I care about all the junk science you seem to believe in. The Sun drives the climate, nothing else has any significant impact. If we happen to be in a warming trend right now, learn to adapt. Nothing humans can do will make any difference and we cannot control the climate. Computer models start with assumptions, not facts. Can any of your "scientists" explain the Medevial warming period in terms of man made effects? You know, when Greenland was really green.
Hamilcar Barca Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 11:56 AM
What were your thoughts during the "Global Cooling" of the 1970s?
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 1:42 PM
" While there does not seem to be any increase in numbers of events, there is a measured difference in strength. Measurements of the Power Dissipation Index (PDI) via satellite since the mid 70’s shows that the warmer ocean surface temperatures are indeed leading to stronger hurricanes."

That, of course, is not true. Even if the temperature of the water warmed dramatically, the air above it would also warm. That destabilizes the air column above a hurricane and makes it less likely for the hurricane to gain strength. This explanation for why hurricanes have NOT increased in either number or severity has been offered by AGW proponents.
M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 2:04 PM
I said, there does not appear to be any increase in the number of hurricanes and this is because of the increased wind shear that accompanies warming making it more difficult to form.

However, once formed, hurricanes gain energy from the ocean water and warmer water should increase intensity.

Elsner et al (2008) showed this

"Atlantic tropical cyclones are getting stronger on average, with a 30-year trend that has been related to an increase in ocean temperatures over the Atlantic Ocean and elsewhere...Our results are qualitatively consistent with the hypothesis that as the seas warm, the ocean has more energy to convert to tropical cyclone wind."

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v455/n7209/abs/nature07234.html
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 2:58 PM
One study does not a scientific conclusion make. Perhaps you can explain the following chart of strongest hurricanes. Wouldn't there be a preponderance of strong hurricanes in more recent years if GW were causing stronger hurricanes?

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastint.shtml
1Falcon1 Wrote: Feb 10, 2013 4:54 PM
hey moron go ask the east coast about snoe melt right now

Mikey wrote: There is no direct link between a particular storm and global warming. What scientists know is that ocean temperatures are getting warmer, sea levels are rising, and the atmosphere contains more moisture because the air is warmer. - As Blizzard Nemo Strikes, Global Warming Won’t Be Far Behind

Dear Comrade Mikey,

That’s right; there is no connection between a storm and so-called global warming. Scientists theorize that storms could be become worse and more extreme, but there is very little evidence- very little is not to be confused with no evidence- that storms are any...