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Carbon not Culprit in Global Warming, Science Is Say Scientists

M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 4:22 PM
"Unfortunately for the 'warmers' nature doesn't use a computer." Yes, the summer arctic ice is crashing.The summer minimum of sea ice in the Arctic from 1979 to 1983 averaged out to 2.76 million square miles, or 51.1 percent of the surface of the Arctic Ocean. In the most recent five years, by contrast, the summer coverage fell to an average of 31.6 percent of the ocean surface. This year, when we hit a new record low for the satellite era, the ice fell to 24 percent of the ocean surface. Must be a computer error?
Simplecaveman Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 5:39 PM
So the Arctic Ice can be ice free during the terrible reign of human emission. Thanks for confirming that.

If no one disputes that the earth has warmed and cooled in the past, how can it be that this time it is strictly the cause of humans? And what is the rate of warming, and what data was used to determine this rate of warming? The earth has not warmed in the last ten years, so what are you basing your assertions on?

Some weather stations used by NWS are so poorly cited they don't even pass their own citing standards. Also, most of them are now located in cities, so you have the urban heat index to worry about.

The geologic record has shown that warmer temperatures cause increases in CO2, not the other way around.
M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 5:22 PM
Mr. Caveman

No one disputes that the earth has warmed and cooled in the past. But the rate we are now seeing warming is unprecedented

The Milankovitch cycles operate on a time scale of over 400K years. The warming we are seeing has occurred in less that 200.

Was the MWP warmer than today? Possibly, but it was not a global effect and the rate at which it happened was much slower. In any case, we are on a track to be far warmer, globally, than the MWP very soon--and it will keep getting warmer after that.
Simplecaveman Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 5:06 PM
Don't say that! The alarmists don't want people to know about the Milankovitch Cycles. Proven mathematically, by the way.
Simplecaveman Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 5:02 PM
I suppose you also have a reason as to why the Medieval warming period and the Roman Warming Period were warmer than today.

No doubt, you also realize that the seas once covered most the continents six major times in the geologic past.
tbashaw Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 5:01 PM
it is more well documented that the earth has gone through many iterations of climate. Tilting of the axis would be a major factor. Doubt that carbon has anything to do with that.
Simplecaveman Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 5:00 PM
Pictures of the Navy's nuclear powered submarines on their journey to the North Pole,

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-not-so-thick/
AliveInHim Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 4:56 PM
Check the book 'Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings' (sic?)

Antarctica was not always iced over. Man didn't cause it to be.
M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 4:52 PM
"The Arctic Sea was ice free in the late 1950's."

Evidence?
Simplecaveman Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 4:50 PM
The Arctic Sea was ice free in the late 1950's.
AliveInHim Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 4:30 PM
Yet I understand the Antarctic ice shield is growing.

Yeah, that ol' Nature can't seem to balance her books, can she?

What is the proper temperature at any place, and at any time, on Earth, supposed to be? Who decides, and upon whose authority?

Did I mention that the night side of the planet is cooler than the day side?

Face it. The Earth is as large as it is in order to support LIFE. Isn't it amazing how people can assert that God did not create the heavens and the earth, or all things visible and invisible, but Man, apparently, can wreck it all simply by living?
M.Hillinger__aka__QR Wrote: Apr 16, 2013 4:28 PM
Wait, wait you may say. The Antarctic sea ice is growing! So, it all balances out.

Well, no. While it is true that ice in the Antarctic is growing during NH summer, the increase is much smaller. As a percentage of ocean cover, the decline going on in the Arctic is almost 25 times the increase going on in the Antarctic.

A new paper that recently replaced the old paper that settled the science of global warming is now out - and not a moment too soon, either.

Because the new paper essentially says: “Um, guys? Never mind.” :/).

Ok, they don't really say that, but actually they really do. 

“Sea level rise is one of the big issues of global warming. It could potentially swamp coastal cities or make them far more vulnerable to storms, such as Hurricane Katrina,” says Science World Report, apparently a wholly owned division of Wayne’s World Publishing, operating under the motto...