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War Is Like Rust

LynRobison Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 10:51 AM
So the U.S. can act as the world's policeman better than anyone else. But with $16 trillion in federal debt and $200 trillion in unfunded liabilities and a faltering economy, how long can the U.S. afford to defend and grow its world-wide empire? Liberals tend to increase the federal government through welfare, and conservatives increase the government through warfare. Either way, the federal government grows and so does its debt and financial obligations. What happens when it finally becomes apparent that the perpetual growth of the federal government is unsustainable?
IsraelFirsterSecond Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 11:37 AM
You confuse republicans and conservatives.
LynRobison Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 1:02 PM
Yeah, you're probably right. Republicans are generally not conservatives any more.
Beircheart2 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 11:20 AM
World wide empire? Examples please!

Conservatives tend to want government decreased. Don't allow yourself to be confused by labels. Just because a "Republican" holds the office that doesn't necessarily mean he is overly conservative, only more palatable to conservatives than the lib alternative. Moreover, the House and Senate have a lot more to say over both military action and welfare as they control the budget. I do agree with you that not only does government size have an inversely proportional connection to freedom and liberty, it also ultimately becomes financially unsustainable if it bloats too large. At teh moment our government is far too corpulent!
LynRobison Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 11:38 AM
The U.S. tends not to invade countries in which U.S. corporations are doing business. In fact, that tends to be the purpose of many U.S. wars: to get U.S. corporations into the conquered country. See the book The Secret History of the American Empire: The Truth About Economic Hit Men, Jackals, and How to Change the World for lots of details.

The liberal / conservative paradigm is now a false one. Conservatism has changed. Conservatives are generally not Jeffersonians who believe in a limited federal government. They are Hamiltonians who believe in a strong federal government. Mitt Romney is a prime example of this. They want to expand the federal government through endless warfare.

The true conservatives are now libertarians.
IsraelFirsterSecond Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 11:40 AM
Mitt Romney IS NOT a conservative!
LynRobison Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 11:45 AM
Yep, and he is not a libertarian either.

Libertarians are the true conservatives.

War seems to come out of nowhere, like rust that suddenly pops up on iron after a storm.

Throughout history, we have seen that war can sometimes be avoided or postponed, or its effects mitigated -- usually through a balance of power, alliances and deterrence rather than supranational collective agencies. But it never seems to go away entirely.

Just as otherwise lawful suburbanites might slug it out over silly driveway boundaries, or trivial road rage can escalate into shooting violence, so nations and factions can whip themselves up to go to war -- consider 1861, 1914 or 1939. Often, the pretexts...

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