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Guns Save Lives

luckylyle Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 8:54 AM
Good article until.........gun owners should be licensed? By who and at what cost? Could the cost be "jacked up" in order to prohibit "legal" gun ownership by those who can't afford it? I don't believe the owners of the tools of freedom and self protection should need a license.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 11:32 AM
one should not need a license to exercise a Constitutionally-protected Civil Right.
Nor have to pass a test to do so.

What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?
Cliff151 Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 12:15 PM
People, especially those who are arming themselves for the first time, need to become intimately familiar with their weapon(s) of choice. And training is essential IMO. Not just with your weapon, but regarding the mindset you must have if you choose to leave the ranks of "sheeple" and advance to "sheepdog". Folks who simply go into Bass Pro, purchase a Glock and tuck i into their pocket/purse are doing themselves and others a disservice.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 5:55 PM
But government must not use "training" as a barrier as is done in some states and DC,and as with the "armed pilots program",aka FFDO.

Any power to license is the power to DENY license.

BTW,it does not take extensive training to use a handgun for self-defense.
MANY ordinary decent citizens (ODCs) have done so,even elderly folks.
rficara Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 9:12 AM
Arizona, Vermont and AK all have constitutional carry. The 2nd Amendment is your carry permit in those states and all three have much lower per capital crime rates than CA, NY, MA or MD or IL.

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lkemp Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 11:10 AM
there needs to be more telling of good that guns do, like all of the saves guns have done in protecting and saving people. seems like all the news people can do is tell about killings.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 11:38 AM
IMO,if a state allows OPEN carry,then the RKBA has been satisfied,but if they want to have concealed carry be only by permit,that still meets the test.
But if they ban open carry,then concealed carry must be legal without any permit,to remain Constitutional.
Otherwise,one must get permission from the State to bear arms,and that IS an infringement on the RKBA.
Few criminals will carry guns openly. Police know who is a felon and barred from possessing firearms. it would be a quick trip to prison. Plus there could be a reward for turning in an armed felon.
rficara Wrote: Dec 23, 2012 9:11 AM
Arizona, Vermont and AK all have constitutional carry. The 2nd Amendment is your carry permit in those states and all three have much lower per capital crime rates than CA, NY, MA or MD or IL.

Ray from Bloombergia
NRA Life
Soli Deo Gloria!!

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