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Fellowship in the Woodlands

lshort Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 11:14 AM
I've actually read the entire King James Bible, cover to cover. I will say right now that it is not possible to follow the Bible to the letter, as it is too contradictory in too many places. So, how does anyone know which cherry-picking of it is the "right" cherry-picking? The King James Bible isn't even the complete Bible--none of them are--it was the set of Biblical books that various groups at various times thought were more pertinent/reliable/acceptable than others. It's really difficult to see where the line in the sand re Bible interpretation should be drawn sometimes.
lshort Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 12:21 PM
Re 2: I tend to feel that the more input from self-described "godly men" we have to "modify" the word of God, the less likely it's actually the word of God.
lshort Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 12:19 PM
Re 3: Yes, like everyone, I pay attention to the parts of the Bible that "feel right" (ie, presumably where I most strongly hear God's voice) and rather ignore the parts that don't. But it's hard for me to really believe that's the "right" cherry-picking.

Re 1: I'll try a different version (though I admit I have a fondness for KJV, due to the sheer beauty of the language) and see if that helps.
Illbay Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 11:58 AM
The bible-thumpers have the solution to that: "Bible-Prime."

You see, what they follow is NOT "the bible" per se - regardless of what they claim - but rather a SUBSET of the Bible made up of those parts they're comfortable with, and which excludes a great portion of it that they DON'T particularly like.

Simplest example is how so many of them rag on and on about "works," sticking only with the Pauline epistles which were in fact directed at JEWS, not Christians who were elsewhere - see Epistle of James, for example - directed to do good works.

Bible-Prime is what they actually mean when they say "I'm a Bible believer." They mean "those parts I like and can understand."
McGovern Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 11:28 AM
No, no, no.

1. The Bible's doctrines do not contradict each other. Try reading a clearer version of the Bible, such as the NIV. Most modern translations now go back to the original Hebrew and Greek versions that are available.

2. The Bible we have today is complete. It was put together by Godly men under the direction of the Holy Spirit. There were no other Biblical books that stood the scrutiny of, "Is this the Word of God?"

3. If one truly studies and learns the Bible's truths, and prays for God's help, it is not difficult to see where lines of interpretation are drawn.

Most of America's problems are cultural. Even our economic problems stem from the cultural rejection of personal responsibility and the acceptance of collective responsibility. And none of our problems would be as bad if the church was still shaping the culture instead of merely responding to it. I was reminded of this during my annual holiday trip home to The Woodlands, Texas.

I've attended Christmas Eve services four out of the last six years at the Woodlands Church (formerly Fellowship of the Woodlands), which is a Southern Baptist mega church that keeps its Baptist affiliation well hidden from the general...