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Making Government (Less Dis)Honest

LimbleCat Wrote: Jul 08, 2012 1:31 AM
It sounds good on paper but even if Congress passed such a thing, it would never (or rarely) be enforceable. Congress would continue to lie and all they'd have to do was claim it was a matter of interpretation. Just as (you say) Bush isn't a liar because he was only repeating what someone else told him, so would Congress. Or the assumptions changed and the tax went up. Or any number of excuses. Let's not forget the one made famous by Ronald Reagan and copied by so many: I do not recall.
Lady Wolverine Wrote: Jul 08, 2012 1:39 AM
Would that be, "Government isn't the solution to the problem, government IS the problem"?
LimbleCat Wrote: Jul 08, 2012 1:41 AM
Considering the context of the discussion, that is: how to avoid getting kicked out of congress for lying, no it wouldn't.
Dan107 Wrote: Jul 08, 2012 3:13 AM
The progressives don't copy that one, Lady...
LimbleCat Wrote: Jul 08, 2012 3:56 AM
Dan107: The progressives don't copy that one, Lady...

I wasn't saying that I didn't know what Reagan said. I was referring to how he famously used the phrase "I don't recall" (or similar) repeatedly during his questioning over the Iran-Contra affair. So no, Dan107, I copy fine. But I should have put it in quotes. I assumed people here knew a lot about RR and would understand. My bad.
Kevin348 Wrote: Jul 08, 2012 4:16 AM

Iran Contra was about taking on Communists in Latin America and screwing over Iranians.

Hence why Oliver North was considered an American hero.

Obamacare is a tax. It’s not a tax. Politicians and pundits are all over the map on this. A tax, a mandate, a ham sandwich…the answer depends on who you ask. But none of this matters because, whatever else it is, it’s currently the law of the land. But how did this happen?

During the debate over Obamacare, Democrats not only stampeded toward any camera they could find to say it wasn’t a tax, they spewed hundreds, if not thousands, of other lies about what it is and is not.

“It will lower premiums.”

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