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you betcha i mean it, concealed. and precisely WHAT is it you you find about my comment that is stupid? without precision in your comment, all we're reduced to is your muddy attempt to add heat to our debate without shedding light. but then that's been the pattern of many cultist thinkers no matter they be from the right OR left in the political spectrum.
So after resisting the Tea Party movement since its inception, now you christian conservative types want to absorb it for your own religious purposes. (See Hawkins items 17-20.) NO THANKS! Government needs to be barred from our bedrooms and to disengage our entanglements in foreign affairs. This can only be accomplished when the Repuplican Party is purged of your CC thinking. So either support the TP or just get out of its way and they'll bring America back to how our founding fathers really intended our system of government to be: Without meddling in other countries internal issues, and certainly without the threat of having your Christian religion shoved down all American throats.
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Trashing Achievements

leonard32 Wrote: Jul 20, 2012 7:40 AM
If government is the only reason entrepreneurs have achieved their success, then how come the remaining populace, containing scads of entrepreneur wannabes, who also had equal access to this magical government, mostly won't ever achieve this same success? The answer: The "secret ingredient" of success doesn't come from government, it comes from the sweat, the capital at risk, the persistence and the vision that an entrepreneur brings to the table. Isn't it ironic, then, that our present government, far from guaranteeing entrepreneurs their success, seems to do all in its power to clear that table by over-taxing, over-regulating and otherwise discouraging and disparaging the achievements of the American entrepreneur today?
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Christians Should Vote For Romney

leonard32 Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 12:18 PM
"I have found that words that are loaded with pathos and create a seductive euphoria are apt to promote nonsense." Gunter Grass Why is it theists believe that if they use long, twisty sentences, they've hit upon a logic impervious to criticism? Leonard32
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Christians Should Vote For Romney

leonard32 Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 11:57 AM
Give it a rest. Yes they were atheists (i use the term pejoratively here), but you ignore the fact that the point of their murders were for POLITICAL rather than religious reasons. And why did you leave the contemporary Hitler out of your list. Or doesn't he fit your christian template? And do you also know that many of the popes, were also some of the largest mass murderers, per capita, throughout history. And THEIR motives were in the main RELIGIOUS rather than political, although political entered the picture whenever it could be used as a weapon to inflict their christian blather or to plunder a rich infidel's treasury.
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Christians Should Vote For Romney

leonard32 Wrote: Jun 14, 2012 8:14 PM
It is not hardness of heart or evil passions that drive certain individuals to atheism, but rather a scrupulous intellectual honesty. Steve Allen, 2000 Years of Disbelief Aside: I just love how theistic AJERKS always think quoting other AJERKS gives them some kind of monopoly on truth, justice and the American way. As a humanist I've always been capable of rustling up a counter-quote or two (see above) but much prefer originality and aptness in MY thought by quoting ME.
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Christians Should Vote For Romney

leonard32 Wrote: Jun 14, 2012 6:32 PM
You theists crack me up. If there is anything bad about the opposition you quickly conclude that some secular cabal is at the bottom of its evil. WRONG! So when the headline of this story reads: "Christians Should Vote For Romney", as a confirmed humanist, I say that both Humanists AND Theists Should Vote for Romney. It's Obama's POLITICAL and ECONOMIC ideas that are ruining our country, NOT his religiousity. Note that I don't define myself by your somewhat pejorative term "atheist"--the state of not being a theist, anymore than you theists would describe yourselves as not being an "ajerk"--the state of not being a jerk, Of course I might THINK of some theist A JERK, but that would be grist for a tale to be told another day.
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She Warned Us

leonard32 Wrote: Jun 13, 2012 12:14 AM
see my reply to chief2dogz above. why should i eschew the crusades. it is one of the blackest parts of your christian heritage. not to mention the inquisition, and the rapacious conquest of the new world your greedy popes supported. further, anti-semitic naziism has its bloody roots in christianity with the latter's teachings that the jews were christ-killers, a charge that stood until the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council repudiated this canard. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide) btw: as further proof that the nazis were not atheists, did you know that the official motto on german soldiers' belt buckles was: "gott mit uns" (god with us)? (http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm)
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She Warned Us

leonard32 Wrote: Jun 13, 2012 12:06 AM
That the nazis were not christian is a lie that you christians would love to foist on history. hitler, however, contradicts you in his own words, many of them in his "mein kampf". add to that the unholy relationship between him and pope pius xii during WWII and you have that lie shattered. (http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm)
Hey! Here's a thought. Why not just get government out of the picture in the first place. Private insurance companies used to charge higher rates for men's life insurance, higher rates for women's health insurance (while women outlived men, they were sicker than us through life), higher rates for under-25's auto insurance, etc. Private insurers also assessed a surcharge for obesity and dangerous hobbies or occupations. And only since WWII have employers begun paying the premiums for health insurance. This was considered a slick way to get around government wage controls and mitigate income taxes. Let's get back to free market capitalism and get back to the good old days without any more eqgovernment "help!"
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The Media's Religion Deficit

leonard32 Wrote: May 24, 2012 7:42 PM
Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. Your same pious courts prosecuted Galileo, burned "witches" (old women) at the stake, disemboweled heretics, fostered crusades (terrorism under the Christian cross logo), gave women little more civil rights than mere chattel (cattle), and prevented women from membership in the religious hierarchy. I can go on, too, if you like. Thankfully our FFs knew all this and that's why they created an America, NOT under the control of Christianity or any other religion. AMEN
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