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Look Her in the Eye

lemonfemale Wrote: Apr 28, 2014 2:21 PM
You just kind've made the "legitimate rape" mistake since no one -by definition- asks to be raped. I could say I've never done the same and I'd be lying. But, actually, the cohort of raped and pregnant women are probably going to be worse off from an abortion than the cohort who might have one. Because they don't do abortion. They feel driven to it in this exceptional case then find they cannot live with themselves. I say no pregnant woman should be shamed and a pregnant-from-rape woman should be lauded. And her expenses paid by whatever victim's compensation boards there are in the area. (My taxes and yours.)
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Look Her in the Eye

lemonfemale Wrote: Apr 28, 2014 2:12 PM
That never works. In the words of Horton, "A person's a person, no matter how small." In more scientific terms, the individual has a unique DNA and is entirely separate from Mom, though attached. Separate circulatory system and all. If you don't take Anominus (or myself) as an authority, I cite Bernard Nathanson MD who performed over 5,000 abortions, ran an abortion facility and died a pro-life activist.
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Look Her in the Eye

lemonfemale Wrote: Apr 28, 2014 2:02 PM
Well, like Adams said, SLED. There is no logical reason to draw an arbitrary line somewhere in the middle of a human life and say "here it starts being a human life." If you cite this person's dependency on her Mom, well a newborn is equally dependent on SOMEONE. Ignore her and she'll cry until she can't any more and then just lay there until she dies. And, except in rape, Mom had a hand in putting her there. In other words, she helped cause the accident. She can't eliminate the victim. Myself I was raped within days of my oldest daughter's conception. We did not know who her father was til she was born. If I'd had the abortion for rape they recommended I get she would not have had her life. There is no upside to that.
One small caveat. Blacks since 1964 the author says. 1964 is not when blacks first were aware of themselves as minorities (IMO) but when they first could do anything about it because now they could register to vote.
I would have to agree. That the citizenry has managed to back down the government is huge. They cannot afford it. Take something where the citizenry was wrong- when the Army went to Little Rock to protect black students at a formerly all white high school. No offense meant to any of the agents at the Bundy ranch but they must be thinking of scenarios like that and they will likely not let this stand. Shall see.
One thing regarding the Firefox CEO. Didn't we say that we would boycott Jim Carrey movies over what he said about gun owners? Some of us anyway. Since, ideally that stops him from working, is it any different? Now someone might not agree with the boycott over a donation to a traditional marriage group but the boycott is a legitimate tool.
I like what Greta van Susteren said yesterday. Do NOT grant her immunity. Grant immunity to everybody who worked aeound her and have them testify. Myself, I do not want to grant her immunity.
A general gave a press conference the day of the latest shooting. He obviously did not favor turning Ft. Hood into what he called an "armed camp" and noted the response was timely. Fifteen minutes. As a convenience store clerk I have been robbed at weapon point seven times and was in the next room when a co-worker was robbed. The whole thing was over in five. As a female I have been sexually assaulted twice. After fifteen minutes one of them was letting me go to walk home. The other incident lasted longer but I had been stabbed, taken several blocks and put into a car in fifteen minutes. And this is crime alone, not jihad. Our soldiers are ducks in a shooting gallery! There is a bill in the House to change that but it has not gone anywhere. We should all call our Representative and tell them to support it.
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Intellectual Dishonesty

lemonfemale Wrote: Mar 27, 2014 11:49 AM
Try another case. Heart of Atlanta v US. In that one a motel was told it must serve blacks as well as whites. Religious beliefs are core. Not absolute but core. And a person can buy their own contraceptives. It's not like having to sleep in your car because nobody in Atlanta will rent you a room. (I don't know if that is literally true but I do know people had to carefully plan their trips based on where they might get rooms.)
As you say. At the time all the major intelligence services believed Iraq had WMDs.
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Fred Phelps: Satan's Servant

lemonfemale Wrote: Mar 25, 2014 1:13 PM
Here is the definitive bio of Phelps. http://blank.org/addict/ This was by a reporter and includes an amicable interview with Phelps as well as with two of his estranged children. I'm not sure he cared about gay folk. He came to Anchorage AK and picketed Anchorage Baptist Temple. Rev. Jerry Prevo of ABT is the most known and powerful opponent of gay civil rights here. But ABT is a more visible venue for a picket than, say, the Unitarians. And when Gabby Giffords was shot did he choose to picket the Federal judge's funeral? No. He chose that of the nine year old child (except he was bought off by an on-air interview.) Something else about him. He used to lay around the house, make his wife wait on him hand and foot (she would sneak downstairs to change diapers and feed the babies. Chapter 4) Then suddenly he gets up, goes on a water fast and drops 150 pounds, and starts his career. Cal Thomas may be right about him. He spent his career provoking people to hate God. Only one Power of Earth does that.
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