SeekerOfTruth_ Wrote: 10 minutes ago (1:00 PM) As long as the team work is voluntary not coerced. So, are conservatives saying that all work on a team must be voluntary?

Jim, interesting. So you would never allow the government to build a military base? Are you saying that the government cannot set aside strategic assets that cannot be owned by private individuals and corps? I hope not.

Seeker, interesting point. So, you allow your children to pick and choose what family chores they do? Are you saying that children should only do family work if they volunteer?

The constitution should also be pro team work? That is what war is all about, team work. The nations that can work best as a team have the best chance of winning a war. The constitution must provide the balance between the individual and the team, the individual in the military, and competition for natural resources. Successful communities find the optimal balance between individual freedom and sacrifice for the country (war).

But the constitution should also be pro team work? The constitution must provide the balance between the individual and the team, the individual in the military, and competition for natural resources. Successful communities find the optimal balance between individual freedom and sacrifice for the country (war).

Shubi, excellent point. And so they should operate as individuals and team simultaneously. However, if you look at conservative theory, the individual is primary and the team is secondary. Right?

Shubi, interesting point. So, you agree that it is appropriate to subordinate the individual desires for the good a nation. That might be the same for homosexuality too. In fact, families often subordinate individual desires for the good of the family. And it is why Farmers have been forming "co-ops" from the beginning of time. The problem is that the conservatives see the constitution as pro individual not pro government.

Exactly. Neither can a economy.

Fuzzy, interesting point. Are suggesting that is a bad thing? What would "Conservatives" do differently?

Here is the problem for conservatives, they want to to compete in the marketplace but act as a team in the military. This is perhaps a Keynes vs Hayek debate. Conservatives are about the individual, but the military is about the team. I don't understand how conservative reconcile the two?