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Who Speaks for Reform In Islam?

Lars795 Wrote: Aug 30, 2012 3:15 PM
Spent 4 years. In Saudi, 1 in Iraq, 1 month in Turkey, and have been to Kuwait and Bahrain. Have read the Qur'an and the Hadith. And stil have no real clue to what's makes them tick.
Lars795 Wrote: Aug 30, 2012 9:41 PM
It's difficult for a learned Arab to fathom it. It is written for "religious scholars) ie. clerics, to tell the masses what it says. And of course interpretation to fit what they want.
Lars795 Wrote: Aug 30, 2012 9:39 PM
Actually it was written in Aramaic, and like so many translations they changed things to fit.

And I had a friend that learned Arabic, speak/read/write, just so he could surprise them that he knew it better than they in "discussions". LOL!
t252 Wrote: Aug 30, 2012 9:29 PM
the reason that reading the koran and hadith doesn't give you a clue, is because it is hard for the western mind to fathom the nonsensical gibberish in these books.
Ben Linus Wrote: Aug 30, 2012 4:39 PM
Did you read it in Arabic? That's what they'd ask.
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