Pity, condenscension, and condemnaton are not love!

Kool Aid for everyone!

I don't think that these young men are doing anything wrong by agitating for their viewpoint, one which I share as far as the full equality of homosexuals goes. However, it is entirely childish to be offended when a religious leader voices the known views of his church. The university should dismiss these student complaints and endorse freedom and diversity.

It's been fun, I must go cook dinner now.

I certaintly can't argue about the rabid activists, John. And I agree that trying to force change through the law is something that should be generally discouraged (I don't support using the courts the way some do). But, at this point, 80% of people under 30 support homosexual equality, including marriage equality, so the change is inevitable and we should get it over with.

@ John: I've always said that I would be happy with "civil union" being the legal term and "marriage" being left to the churches (of course, some churches do bless homosexual unions, so what do you get then?). And your own examples show that cultural norms are constantly shifting, since people rarely wait until after marriage to have sex these days.

Arguing against equal rights for homosexuals based on the fact that you personally find homosexual sexual behaviors "icky" is really childish -- especially because hetrosexual people engage in all the same sexual behaviors that homoseuxals do.

Arguing that homosexual shouldn't have equal rights because you think that anal sex is icky, magnetar, is really childish -- especially because many hetrosexuals also engage in that particular sexual behavior.

I dont' see any re-definition of cultural norms. Marriage is a legal contract between two people who are having sex, I don't see how that doesn't apply to same sex couples. And sexual orientation is one of the centerpeices of everyone's life, it influences everything, just like gender does. And I don't expect anyone to tell me how "wonderful" I am, I just want fair treatment and equal legal rights.

I don't have time or space to go into the ongoing research, I'm sorry. They haven't found anything that is 100% responsible, but they have found differences that cannot be explained by psychology (for example, in response to scent between homosexual and heterosexual men) or that apparent influence of testosterone exposure (both adult production and in-urtero exposure) on the incidence of female homosexuality and bisexuality.