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Is Anyone Hellbound?

kmiller323 Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 8:58 AM
Actually, Jesus never uses the word "hell." In fact, the word "hell never appears anywhere in the Bible. In the OT, you have the word "sheol," which was simply the place of the dead. In the NT, the term Jesus uses is "Gehenna," which was a valley just outside of Jerusalem that had a cursed history going back to the prophet Jeremiah. The other New Testament writers use a cluster of words taken from Greek mythology--Apollyon (the angel of the bottomless pit), Hades (the Greek realm of the dead) and Tartarus (the lowest part of of Hades where the Titans are chained). None of these equate to our modern idea of hell. Watch "Hellbound?" to learn more about the history of this idea and why so many people disagree with Michael's view.
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 12:06 PM
I think it's also worth noting that much of the hellish imagery that most Christians seem to identify with comes from Dante's Inferno, which was not part of the bible. The hell or areas of the dead in the bible are very diverse from the OT to the NT. That indicates that the concept was not well-defined or understood by the people of the time. That doesn't mean they weren't correct on some levels. It merely means they didn't understand or didn't articulate it very well in their holy texts.
Nevirim Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 10:38 AM
Just because a Greek work is or a Hebrew word is used in a passages and is translated into an "English" concept does not invalidate it's meaning. Your assertions and your research are flawed. Take the time to read the following passage from the New Testament that you failed to quote:
Mat_5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Nevirim Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 10:38 AM
Mat_5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat_5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Nevirim Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 10:41 AM
Mat_10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mat_11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
Mat_16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat_18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Nevirim Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 10:49 AM
Matthew_23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Luke_12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Luke_16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Matthew_23:15 Mark_9:43 Mark_9:45 Mark_9:47 Luke10:15 Act_2:27 Act_2:31 James_3:6 2Peter_2:4 Rev_1: Rev_6:8 Rev_20: Rev_20:14
Jesus Talked more about Staying out of Hell then he ever did of Heaven! You want to know what Hell is Read His Book!
Dean197 Wrote: Oct 04, 2012 10:36 AM
And 'Gehenna' doesn't imply you go on living after you're burned.

The new documentary Hellbound? has reignited discussion about the perennial topic of hell as well as revealed some very bizarre perspectives.

Kevin Miller, the film’s director, who identifies as a Christian, stated in an interview that, regarding the traditional view of hell as a place of fiery torment, “I don’t see anything in the Bible that would lead me to believe that such a place exists.” Instead, according to Miller, when Jesus talked about hell, he was talking about the here and now.

Really? Jesus didn’t warn about a place of judgment to come? And Director Miller gets his...