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10 Concepts Liberals Talk About Incessantly But Don't Understand

Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 11:50 AM
Doesn't this entire article fall apart at point #1? Mr. Hawkins is making blanket statements and classifying people and their beliefs in his column, sure sounds Open Minded to me.
pascagoulapappy Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 12:41 AM
Man, if the shoe fits . . .
Rock Strongo Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:00 PM
Conservatives listen to all of the "arguments" of the left (you'd have to be a survivalist in the jungle to not be bombarded with them daily), it's just that the left's arguments usually fall somewhere between unconvincing and utterly incoherent.

Libs, on the other hand, rarely seek out alternative points of view, and on the rare occasions they do, generally either offer only insults or sneering dismissals in rebuttal.
Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:11 PM
I understand where you are coming from well enough to know that you are wrong.

Thanks Capt-Call!!
Capt-Call Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:14 PM
I drew my own conclusion based on your bizarre definition of open minded
Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:27 PM
Open-Minded adj. having a mind receptive to new ideas, arguments, etc.; unprejudiced
Capt-Call Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 1:06 PM
One does not have to be unreceptive or prejudiced to form a judgement and determine it's worth . You seem to equate open minded with acceptance.
HuffingPaintPost Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 1:13 PM
The trolls we usually have on here (like Alli) poop better trolls that you.
HuffingPaintPost Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 1:13 PM
Er... "than" you. Oh well.
True Conservative! Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 11:55 AM
You are the poster child for what his column is about ... you obviously got nothing of it!
Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:02 PM
I read the whole thing. My point is that being Open Minded means understanding the other side as well, not pointing fingers and declaring the other side is wrong.
Capt-Call Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:05 PM
I understand where you are coming from well enough to know that you are wrong
Rock Strongo Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:06 PM
No, being open minded means to listen to both sides of an argument and draw your own conclusions. Apparently, we're not supposed to point it out when one of the arguments is completely nonsensical.
Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:08 PM
So if I declare your arguments nonsensical am I being open-minded?
Rock Strongo Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:12 PM
I'd at least expect some kind of logical refutation or contrary evidence (a long shot with the left, to be sure), but as long as you at least earnestly heard me out, then yes.
Capt-Call Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:12 PM
As an open minded liberal should you not call for the end of persecution of Chjick- fil-a
by close minded gay activists that seek to damage it's business simply over a disagreement about what constitutes marriage ?
Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 12:23 PM
I haven't been following this Chic-fil-A story much. After a brief read I would say that the mayor of Boston and the Chicago alderman DO have the right to say they do not welcome a Chick-fil-A franchise in their respective cities. But they DO NOT have the right to change zoning by-laws to impede the franchise.
Capt-Call Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 1:05 PM
I find it interesting that the mayor of Boston has been quite vocal of his support for a mosque whose Iman advocates executing gays . Hypocrisy of the left is quite illuminating
HuffingPaintPost Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 1:11 PM
Being open minded, under your definition, would mean never drawing a conclusion on anything. So much for "progress".
Steve of CA Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 1:46 PM
It is one thing to find fault in an argument or general viewpoint another to stereotype entire groupd of people. Most Americans do not fit into neat little liberal or conservative boxes but judge each issue on its own merits; they may be liberal on some issues conservative on other issues
Steve of CA Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 1:48 PM
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"As an open minded liberal should you not call for the end of persecution of Chjick- fil-a$
by close minded gay activists that seek to damage it's business simply over a disagreement about what constitutes marriage ? "

The New York Ties did in an editorial today and I agree with them
Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 2:57 PM
Well said Steve. If I had to be thrown into a neat little box by the TH posters I would be called a liberal. But the reality is that my opinions are not driven by ideology or group-think. I am an independent and proud of it!
Jay Wye Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 5:19 PM
what about using the power of their gov't to hold up or delay permits?
to call for repeated inspections and having inspectors find all sorts of nitpicks to deny approvals,there's all sorts of ways a dishonest pol can block a business.Your permit application might get "lost",or keep fining it's way to the bottom of the queue.
Add up all the many ways of hindering and interference,and it becomes too costly to start your business,if you can get it open at all.
No laws need be changed to do any of this.
pascagoulapappy Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 12:42 AM
To understand liberalism is to know it's wrong.
pascagoulapappy Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 12:43 AM
Only if they are nonsensical.
pascagoulapappy Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 12:43 AM
pascagoulapappy Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 12:49 AM
That's right. We Americans cannot be cubbyholed or stereotyped. And that holds whether you're talking about dour New Englanders, pushy New Yorkers, ignorant Southerners, naive Midwesterners, crazy Texans, or supercrazy Californians.
Kizarvexious Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 11:51 AM
And good morning to all the TH die-hards!
Capt-Call Wrote: Jul 31, 2012 11:58 AM

Doesn't this entire article fall apart at point #1? Not at all. You just validated his point with your post.You are not open minded enough to acknowledge his argument in any sort of cogent way
"It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so." -- Ronald Reagan

”You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.” -- Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

1) Being Open Minded: To a liberal, this has nothing at all to do with seriously considering other people's ideas. To the contrary, liberals define being "open-minded" as agreeing with them. What could be more close-minded than assuming that not only are you right, but that you don't even need to consider another...