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Regardless of what immigration reform bill (if any) gets passed into law, it will not likely be enforced any better than the current laws that are not being enforced. Thus is all politics and no substance.
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Employers Are Not Immigration Officers

Kibitzer Wrote: Jun 17, 2013 10:40 AM
The Government does not enforce current immigration law, and it is highly unlikely that it will enforce any new immigration law. Full enforcement of current immigration law should be the prerequisite for any new law. laws not enforced have no meaning.
Once again the law of unintended consequences strikes, but for once it is hitting the right target.
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How Do We Turn Around America?

Kibitzer Wrote: Jun 13, 2013 5:41 PM
Sad but true. The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States was originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892 as an expression of loyalty to the federal flag and the republic of the United States of America. With the Congressional change and our PC culture it can no longer be required to be recited in the schools where it was originally meant to be used in. Progress?????
Just what is it that you do not understand about the first amendment? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." The religious restrictions on the Congress protect all religious activity whether you agree with it or not.
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How Do We Turn Around America?

Kibitzer Wrote: Jun 13, 2013 1:37 PM
Further, the US Constitution, Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
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How Do We Turn Around America?

Kibitzer Wrote: Jun 13, 2013 1:30 PM
Continued. added the words "under God" which did not change what allegiance was being pledged to, namely the flag and the republic for which it stands, but did in my opinion violate the first amendment prohibition against establishment and free exercise of religion which includes the right to be agnostic, atheist, Buddhist, Muslim or any of the other religions of the world, many of which do not have a deity. To the extent that the US is "under God" isn't at least some part of the rest of the world also "under God" for those who believe in God?
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How Do We Turn Around America?

Kibitzer Wrote: Jun 13, 2013 1:20 PM
"Our Pledge of Allegiance states we are "one nation under God", therefore if someone is offended by the word God that isn't our problem: it's theirs!" WRONG!! Prior to about 1953 the pledge of allegiance did not contain the words "UNDER GOD" and properly was all inclusive. Then the Congress at the behest of the Kights of Columbus
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Presidents 2, Democracy 0

Kibitzer Wrote: Jun 13, 2013 12:31 PM
So we should let the political class do all of the electing of senators and the President? As established by the constitution, we have Republic in which democratically elected politicians run the "Republic". Unfortunately, too many of the people have found that by electing liberal/progressive representatives and Senators they can get "FREE STUFF" from the Government. The sixteenth amendment was the key to the ultimate demise of the country, by letting the politicians take unlimited amounts of wealth from the productive to support the non-productive.
Look for far fewer Christians to volunteer for military service as this goes forward.
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