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The Bullying Left Exploits Sandy Hook

KevNC Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 7:38 AM
Both sides have demonstrated levels of being unreasonable. On this site alone, I have seen suggestions that this tragedy is the result of pure evil (translated - let's give up, there's nothing we can do), abortion, gay marriage, violence in the media, medication side effects, and even one person suggested that this is the result of the shooter not being breastfed. I have seen people suggest that everyone who works at a school and even students who are legally old enough to own a gun, should be allowed to carry a gun on school grounds. Perhaps if people on both sides stopped trying to one-up each other and make this about themselves, we could actually focus on the victims and look at what really needs to be done to prevent further tragedies.
soliton2 Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 7:50 AM
Whereas the lowing herd at Huffpo thinks banning guns is the only rational response (despite the fact that we can't keep illegals or drugs out of the country). Herding behavior, typical progressive response to anything.
soliton2 Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 8:26 AM
Your welcome. Just trying to keep the example list fair and balanced.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 8:39 AM
Allowing armed teachers and other school employees IS constructive;
it's proven to be effective,(Israel does it),simple and cost-effective.
It puts armed good guys right where they need to be,close to the children,ALL the time school is open.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 8:39 AM
Consider that concealed carry permit holders have established a SUPERB record of safety and lawfulness,in EVERY US state that issues such permits.
They have proven THEY are not a problem,no threat to other lawful citizens.
Consider that the permit holders behavior is NOT going to magically change once they set foot on a campus. Also,those "snot-nosed kids" are ADULTS,who have taken the time and expense to get trained and pay the fees for a carry permit. They are not about to "act up" and risk losing their permit.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 8:43 AM
Having armed teachers (and other school employees)is like having plainclothes police scattered all around the school,at no cost. it's the smart thing to do.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 9:03 AM
you're blathering,Ken.

Armed citizens is a DETERRENT. an effective one.
both criminals and terrorists avoid places where people are armed.
But you'd keep on doing nothing. Doing the same thing over and over,expecting different results. Or that "if it's just done BETTER" nonsense.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 9:15 AM
BTW,the Newtown murderer's guns were NOT "his",they were stolen from his mother.
He also did not have a "superb record of safety",he was know to be autistic,mentally ill.
you'll go through any gyrations to weasel out of accepting what goes against your bias.
KevNC Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 9:15 AM
And you would just give everyone a gun apparently and then make a bunch of excuses when the wrong person gets a gun and something happens.

We aren't dealing with terrorists. We are dealing with lone gunman who, for a variety of reasons, are committing mass murder.

Arming teachers will prevent nothing. The targets are not random to these shooters. They are chosen for a personal reason. The Columbine shooters were lashing out at fellow students. The shooter in Conn. targeted the children he believed had stolen his mother's love from him. His mother was having him involuntarily committed to an assisted living facility and had occassionally volunteered with the kindergarteners. He wanted revenge, however warped his logic.
KevNC Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 9:20 AM
BTW, I already stated that the guns belonged to his mother quite clearly and I stated that SHE had a superb record of safety. Please read before you comment.

He was known to have Aspergers, which is in the Autism spectrum, but is not the same as Autism. There is no released diagnosis of a mental illness at this time, but obviously there is something more than Aspergers at play here.

Also, at no time have I stated that I have an issue with people owning guns. I do not agree that arming school staff is going to prevent future attacks, that's all. Why you feel the need to berate me for having an alternate opinion is beyond me.

The horror of the massacre of innocents at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. struck at the fabric of the American tapestry. Virtually every American has spent the last few days in a haze -- shocked at the nature of evil, confused and frustrated by the inability to prevent such an atrocity, fearful at the possibility of such a monstrous occurrence repeating itself.

It is only natural in such times to discuss what we can do differently to prevent such things from happening. Nobody wants to see dead children, grieving parents or bullet-riddled schools. Nobody. We may...