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The Gay Murphy Brown Effect

Kevlar Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 9:52 PM
I think we're onto something Neekohlass. Adoption agencies already list gender, ethnicity and race. Now they will note the orientation of the toddler and place it with parents most able to help the child through life's trials and tribulations. Does that make sense? Homosexual babies to homosexual parents...Perfect!
Kevlar Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:04 PM
Neekohlass, the friend of a friend of mine is adopted. He 'came out' to his parents in his early twenties. He hasn't seen his Dad for at least ten years. This is so sad and now we know how to prevent it.
This guy is so desperate for anything that's not 'gay', he's going door to door in Seattle trying to get folks to vote for same-sex marriage. You and I know he'll gain nothing but the straight nomenclature. I guess he thinks it will help him with his homophobe father.
Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:16 PM
That's too bad. I really feel horrible about how so many gay people feel the need to prove themselves. I guess I feel it a bit too, but I do so by learning everything I can about what information there is out there on homosexuality, and try to be reasonable about how I want my "equal rights." I understand churchgoing people's worries about the language being used to force them to marry people too. I guess I gave up on marriage as unimportant. A family however, I see that as my purpose. I love kids, and don't think it's selfish to commit to raising some of my own adopted kids.
Kevlar Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 9:57 PM
Yep, Neekohlass, I'd agree to that. No more Dads throwing their homosexual son out of the house. No more adoptive kids in therapy to cure their orientation. It all makes perfect sense. Adoptive agencies will give homosexual kids to homosexuals and visa versa. Are we in agreement Neekohlass?
Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:02 PM
If time makes it more possible, yes. I think we are. Not a bad plan. However I don't think it would be that bad being raised by a different orientation. I mean, I had straight parents, and they handled me fine and gave me no real guilt about being myself. I see your point though.
Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:04 PM
Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:07 PM
Nope, Dad never remarried. It's fine though, we get by great.
Kevlar Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:20 PM
"I had straight parents, and they handled me fine and gave me no real guilt about being myself "

You said your mother died when you were very young. You said you were raised by just your Dad. You also said homosexuality doesn't set in until puberty.

When your mother passed, how old were you...really?
Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:24 PM
I was in elementary school, fourth grade. So it was before the gay issue set in, and I didn't tell my father until high school. So I guess by parents I mean my Dad and my extended family, who all know. Even my great grandma.
Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:24 PM
I was in elementary school, fourth grade. So it was before the gay issue set in, and I didn't tell my father until high school. So I guess by parents I mean my Dad and my extended family, who all know. Even my great grandma.
Kevlar Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:24 PM
Neekohlass, in reference to your homosexuality, you said your Mom "gave me no real guilt about being myself "
You said you were raised by your single (widowed) Father. You said your homosexuality wasn't discovered until you were in puberty.
Why did you lie?

Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:25 PM
I said parents, not my mother. It was a mistake, not a lie.
Kevlar Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:35 PM
I'll accept that. Neekohlass, you might end up being 'Father of the Year'. You're certainly infinately more mature than typical male homosexual TH posters. You witnessed the name-calling and running away. I'd still need more evidence before endorcing that a child be deliberately deprived of a mother.
Nonetheless, I wish you luck.
Neekohlass Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 10:40 PM
I wish you luck too. I have a good feeling that given more time we'll be able to agree with each other even more. Keep up the polite responses! I find more people listen that way.
du2 Wrote: Jun 21, 2012 10:10 AM
Evidently, Kevlar...you are spewing your typical lack of knowledge on this subject. There is countless information on how misinformed hetero parents, did irreparable harm to their gay children because of ignorant and bigoted busybodies. I guess no one has been concerned about how many of those parents buried their child because of it, or how many abandoned their gay child ILLEGALLY before that child was of age. But you all can rant all day about what gay parents might do to a child. What a backward conversation. Kevlar, don't you have a life elsewhere? Are you retired or something? Have any children yourself that need you...or care about you?
Kevlar Wrote: Jun 16, 2012 9:54 PM
If a homosexual couple demanded their baby be free of homosexuality...well...that's bad. Homosexuals wanting straight kids indicates a level of self-loathing children should never be exposed to.

Do children raised by same-sex couples do just as well as children raised by married moms and dads?

U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker overturned California's Proposition 8 in part on those grounds. The scientific evidence is so strong, he ruled, that only an irrational human being could imagine the ideal for a child was a mom and dad.

This week a big hole was punched in Walker's storyline by a new study in the peer-review publication Social Science Journal.

Using a new, nationally representative survey of young adults ages 18 to 29, professor Mark Regnerus of the University of Texas at Austin compared how...