mmeinicoff Wrote: What kind of progress is that in building a civilized world?
Your presumptive argument amounts to a straw man. Only a world without guns could be "civilized"? Your smug attitude of arrogance is positively sophomoric. Sure it would be great to have no need for guns. If you believe that world is attainable now, take a walk with me through some bad neighborhoods after dark. Near where I live there are reports of "shots fired" every few nights, and home invasions in the better neighborhoods are, at times, almost commonplace.
I'll make a deal with you. Get the civilized world happening and I'll surrender my guns to you.
When you argue for a living, you can tell how an argument is going for you. The evidence and my gut both tell me that the liberals have lost control of the gun control narrative.
Not for lack of trying – it was almost as if they were poised to leap into action across the political, media and cultural spectrum the second the next semi-human creep shot up another “gun free zone.” This was their big opening to shift the debate and now it’s closing. They’ve lost, and they are going nuts.
The evidence is all around that...












You had better go read your bible again if you are planning on using it as a reference for your stance.
Luke 22:36
KJV: ... and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
This was Jesus commanding his disciples because self-dense is lawful and the world is full of evil people. Jesus commanded them to concealed carry/open carry.
"They shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." [Isaiah 2:4]