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Are Gay Parents Worse Parents?

Kenneth L. Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:05 AM
I'd have to read the study, of course. But Charen reports that Regnerus was skeptical about the claims of "no difference" and "superior." We don't have to explore the entire range of possibilities to expose this falsehood.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 12:03 PM
No it cant, and respectful disagreement is always good, but all it can show is that an unstable household is less good then a stable household, By not comparing unstable to unstable and stable to stable how can you draw a scientific comparison between the two.
Kenneth L. Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:49 AM
I don't mean to pick nits, soldier, but I don't agree with your statistical analysis. I'm not saying anything can be shown to be true. But it can be shown that skepticism is justified.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:40 AM
Kenneth

But again, from the info above we can not state whether the unhappiness was caused by the "surrogate factor like "instability" or something else"

Now I kind of agree with Amy's post above, because I think two genders can provide appropriate role models and less societal pressures (teasing from other kids etc) then same sex couples but that is not backed up by the article or any good scientific evidence.

You can not say FROM THE ARTICLE (emphasis not shouting) that same sex parents are NOT equal to (no different to ) then hetero parents
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:34 AM
Rich but the STUDY we are discussing can not show that and the study is what the article is about.

Kenneth L. Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:26 AM
single parent, not "single sex"

Sorry.
Kenneth L. Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:23 AM
I would want to see the data, but if those who answered "yes" to the question about their parent(s) having a same-sex relationship had a less happy childhood and/or a less successful and happy adulthood, whether because of a surrogate factor like "instability" or something else, one cannot claim that same-sex parents are "no different" from or "superior" to opposite-sex parents. As Amy points out (above) it may be possible to isolate the "instability" factor and derive a scale that would find some same-sex parents to be superior to some single sex and opposite sex parents. The statistical average still tells a valid story. Obviously, not everybody is average.
Rich D. Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:21 AM
Yeah, I can say that. They are unable to provide both roles models to the children. Basis? Years of social experience. Duh.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jun 15, 2012 11:14 AM
But can you say that a same sex committed couple is not the same as an opposite sex committed couple from this article and study? On what basis?

Can you say a same sex attracted parent in multiple relationships is not as good as an opposite sex attracted parent in multiple relationships from this article? On what basis...

All you can see is Children from broken homes where they frequently do not spend the majority of time with both parents is less desirable then a committed relationship between the parents....

I doubt there are MANY that would not concede THAT point.

As the nation debates whether to institutionalize same-sex marriage, social scientists have been weighing in -- often with a heavy hand. As Mark Regnerus, author of a new study examining outcomes for children in a variety of home environments, notes social science regarding gay and lesbian parenting has swung from "presents challenges," to "no difference" to "superior" in the space of one decade. The American Psychological Association declared flatly in 2005 that, "Not a single study has found children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents." That prompted skepticism from...