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Women in Combat

Ken5061 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 10:41 AM
The two mile run is not that tough as I was able to meet the minimum time up until age 62.
SdAufKla Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 11:05 AM
It's not about the MINIMUMS.

It is about exceeding the maximum and all other expectations of effort and endurance when confronted by uncertain situations and the unknown.

It's about accomplishing the mission even after long passing, by hours, days, or even weeks, all maximum standards in the book and everything else that you once thought was humanly possible.
Corbett_ Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 10:48 AM
But many women could not make it even at 20. When I was in the Army, I had a SFC working for me who ALWAYS scored 300 on her PT test. If I had done the same number of pushups, situps, and same time on the run, I would have failed. She was a tiny little thing who could not have lifted an infantryman's pack, much less carried it all day.

Se was a fine clerk-typist, but she should not have been in the Army.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 11:29 AM
If she was a fine clerk typist why should she not have been in the Army if being a clerk typist was her job?

I had an outstanding female supply SGT when I took my company to Kosovo in 2000

I gave her a top notch NCOER (evaluation) and when I ran into her years later in Iraq she was a Warrant Officer and it was well earned promotion

She belonged in and made valuable contributions to the Army just not in the infantry

I had terrible women Soldiers and some terrible male Soldiers and excellent ones also

Get rid of the duds but keep direct combat battalions all male
Wolfgang6 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 12:08 PM
But you're missing the point. The handful of feminist harpies and female combat-support branched officers want those infantry positions so they can be promoted. It's THEIR careers, not the good of the service with which they are concerned.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 12:31 PM
Wolfgang

They may want it but this change. Does not give it to them

Example currently male and female LTs can be what is called Signal Officers which is IT and radio specialists

Both male and female Signal Officers can serve in Aviation, Supply, MP, and medical battions but until this change only male Signal Officers could be in Infantry Battalions

It is those support positions in the front line units that are now open (and should NOT be) that are in question. Not the actual infantry jobs themselvrs

A senior Defense Department official said the ban on women in combat should be lifted because the military's goal is "to provide a level, gender-neutral playing field." I'd like to think the goal of the military should be to have the toughest, meanest fighting force possible. But let's look at "gender-neutral playing field."

The Army's physical fitness test in basic training is a three-event physical performance test used to assess endurance. The minimum requirement for 17- to 21-year-old males is 35 pushups, 47 situps and a two-mile run in 16 minutes, 36 seconds or less. For females of the same age,...