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Why the Liberal Hatred of Citizens With Guns

Ken325 Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 10:07 PM
Ridiculous example. #1 - a handgun or hunting rifle will kill someone just as dead as semi-automatic assault rifle. #2 - If you're going to use as a fact that assault rifes were banned, why not comment that the it was more difficult for the criminal to attain one? A ban means a ban. A ban on production, sales, possession. If implemented, it means the likelihood that a criminal will have one is less likely (while not completely impossible, but less likely). How many criminals do see everyday that have a machine gun? Why not? Because they were banned a long time ago. A ban on assault rifles will not make the disappear overnight. But a ban in place for 30 years will make them very rare.
jjollymore Wrote: Mar 01, 2013 3:54 PM
First off, an assault rifle is a term referring to a select fire weapon. Such weapons are Class 3 devices, and are heavily regulated. As for banning a product that literally millions of Americans own, when only 323 people were murdered with on in 2011 is ridiculous. Your statement lacks actual common sense and is a direct attack on the individual rights of property ownership, along with the right to keep and bear arms. Your sexual retardation and emotional immaturity are not valid reasons to infringe on my rights.
gshelton Wrote: Feb 14, 2013 11:00 AM
Your ridiculous attempt at an example #1 - The point of the above article was that an M-4 type rifle would have given the citizen the option of stopping the criminal without having to wait until he was within pistol range. That was a combat situation & having a modern self defense rifle would have given them more options and greater firepower. #2 - How long have cocaine and heroin been banned? How well has that worked?

And machine guns were not banned, they were regulated. Any one with a Class 3 FFL can buy one. The fact that they are rarely, if ever used in crimes is more due to their expense (as much as $75,000) and the fact that they are not a good option for the typical criminal's agenda (they burn through ammo too quickly).
rdunn407 Wrote: Feb 14, 2013 1:44 PM
Another thing to realize @ Ken325, is what the 2nd Amendment stood for. Those wanting to ban "assault" weapons think the 2nd Amendment was for self-defense and hunting/sporting only. I would encourage you to look into the history and context behind the amendment. It was primarily written to enable Americans the ability to restrain a potentially tyrannical government. It was written to keep liberty alive. Let's keep the argument on its proper page. It's about liberty, not merely self-defense.
Ken325 Wrote: Feb 14, 2013 9:25 PM
yep, 220 years ago, the people of the various states distrusted the idea of a standing, federal army. Their fears were misplaced then, and yours are misplaced now. Something in the last 220 years has proved to me that our government is most stable democracy-based system of government in the world. The argument that the 2nd Amendment is still needed in case you need to take up arms against your own government would be laughable - if it weren't so treasonous.
jjollymore Wrote: Mar 01, 2013 3:57 PM
Actually, their fears were not misplaced. The evolving police state in which we all reside should give us all cause to stop and take notice. What is treasonous is suggesting that individuals be forcibly disarmed by the government. You defeat the argument that citizens have nothing to fear from their government when you advocate such ideas as disarming the populace.

You’re snug in your cabin in the mountains outside of Big Bear, California. Snug, but fearful. They’re searching for a killer near you. A terrifying, heavily armed former cop from Los Angeles who has gone on a killing rampage.

Suddenly you hear gunshots. You part the curtains to look outside ... and there’s the man whose picture you’ve seen countless times on TV over the past few days running toward your house as he returns fire to police officers in pursuit.

Just a few weeks ago you had been considering buying an AR-15 just in case it might be needed to...