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Guns Save Lives

Ken325 Wrote: Apr 03, 2013 10:24 PM
Summary: Because guns are so common in the US, people needs guns to defend themselves. That's great logic. Here's a question: What if there were NO guns in the US ?
Ronald494 Wrote: Apr 13, 2014 4:15 PM
Great Idea. I nominate you to personally disarm the criminals yourself.
Ronald494 Wrote: Apr 19, 2013 3:36 PM
Then it might be called Russia or England where gun crime has increased since confiscation or Australia. Or China or Cambodia or Nazi Germany where at least 170,000,000 people have been murdered by their governments in the 20th century.
rshuttle2 Wrote: Apr 04, 2013 12:52 PM
Then we will find a way to kill each other just as we have for all of recorded history. But I do not believe that your really mean "No Guns!". You probably mean the citizens have no guns but the government will have to have guns to take the citizen's guns. The result of the government having all of the guns has too often resulted in genocide. Just in the twentieth century, gun control has led to genocide in Ottoman Turkey, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, China, Guatemala, Uganda,Cambodia and Rwanda. In all of those countries, gun control was "Just the first step" to ensure safety. Safety if you were in the majority. Over 70 million dead minorities were not so safe. It can't happen here? Only a well armed citizenry can prevent that.
LibertysSon Wrote: Apr 04, 2013 9:57 AM
That would mean that we have become a Fascist state
Brian953 Wrote: Apr 04, 2013 9:46 AM
Then all the criminals who could afford it would arm themselves, and crime would skyrocket.
lprowicz Wrote: Apr 04, 2013 11:15 PM
like they aren't doing that already. you're a real comedian, aren't you?
Ronald494 Wrote: Apr 19, 2013 3:38 PM
The criminals can afford to steal them before confiscation of legal weapons and from each other thereafter.
jallan Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 7:30 AM
At least the police would know who all the criminals are; they are the ones with guns. At the moment, anyone can carry weapons in the US, so it is a bit hard to identify the criminals. In Australia, if someone is carrying a gun in public, they are a criminal and are dealt with accordingly.
lprowicz Wrote: Apr 03, 2013 11:05 PM
Can't happen. Won't ever happen. Saying it can happen is a denial of reality. That's why having guns, lots of them if necessary with large magazines in case you need them is the best solution to any potential violence against your family.

We all know that guns can cost lives because the media repeat this message endlessly, as if we could not figure it out for ourselves. But even someone who reads newspapers regularly and watches numerous television newscasts may never learn that guns also save lives-- much less see any hard facts comparing how many lives are lost and how many are saved.

But that trade-off is the real issue, not the Second Amendment or the National Rifle Association, which so many in the media obsess about. If guns cost more lives than they save, we can always repeal the Second...