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Same Sex Marriage: Stealing Rights From God

Ken325 Wrote: May 12, 2014 10:44 PM
You are confusing being non-religious with being immoral. While a great many moral truths are held by religions, there are just as many very immoral beliefs in religion.
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Same Sex Marriage: Stealing Rights From God

Ken325 Wrote: May 12, 2014 10:38 PM
No one is seeking to change what the church views as marriage - only what the state views as marriage.
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Same Sex Marriage: Stealing Rights From God

Ken325 Wrote: May 12, 2014 10:34 PM
There are many more legal aspects than just bequests, Joycey. Tax advantages, survivor benefits, even hospital visitation rights. Etc, Etc. I would be in favor if calling all unions "civil unions". But then, you would lose the government recognizing your "marriage" as superior to other marriages. And that would be just too unfair, huh? "Like children" alright.
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Same Sex Marriage: Stealing Rights From God

Ken325 Wrote: May 12, 2014 10:27 PM
And that's is exactly what the Equal Protection Clause is doing - it is limiting the government - prohibiting the government from making and enforcing laws in a discriminatory manner. Marriage isn't a right. But if it is recognized in law, then it must be recognized in non-discriminatory manner - ESPECIALLY it must not be discriminatory based on religious preference. The Declaration isn't law. And I'm not much of a fan of Jefferson. I far prefer Hamilton.
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Same Sex Marriage: Stealing Rights From God

Ken325 Wrote: May 12, 2014 10:16 PM
You can call them what you like, doesn't matter. But if you admit that the right of marriage is a religious right - then why is the government involved ? Legally, it is a contract - a civil union. That's as far as the State should be involved. You are trying to have the State recognize only your version of a religious sacrament.
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Benghazi: What REAL Dems REALLY Think

Ken325 Wrote: May 12, 2014 10:10 PM
Here's the thing - Even the attack was labeled a terrorist attack from the very beginning - it would not have made one bit of difference in the outcome of the election. If a terrorist attack is a black eye to the sitting president, then why was GW Bush re-elected after 9/11 ?
Sorry, I trust the federal government much more than I trust my sorry state.
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Same Sex Marriage: Stealing Rights From God

Ken325 Wrote: May 12, 2014 10:02 PM
I agree - "marriage" is a sacrament - a religious thing. So why is the State involved at all? Civil unions for all. "Marriage" (with no legal recognition) for the religious.
- Exactly
This is the most ridiculous article I've ever read. "To claim otherwise would be to admit that your “rights” would vanish if a majority of humans or a dictator changed the law. No advocate of same sex marriage would agree with that." Well, I'm an "advocate" of same-sex marriage, and I agree that if US Constitution were amended, that our rights could change or vanish. For instance, if the Equal Protection Clause is removed the US Constitution, then gays would lose their right to marriage. But as it is - prohibitions against gay marriage are discriminatory. "but we are talking about protecting moral rights through our laws (which is what good laws are supposed to do)." - Well, prohibitions against same-sex marriage are IMMORAL (because they are discriminatory). Rights do not come from God - they come from the US Constitution. In fact, if you argue that marriage is a religions right, then why is the state involved. It is a LEGAL right - that's it. In my opinion, both straight and gay unions should be given the same legal rights. Then, if a church wishes to call these unions "marriages", that would be up the church - but it can have no legal advantages over same-sex unions.
I've long-held that idea as the "solution" to the abortion debate. The woman has the right to remove the fetus from her body - but she does not have the right to terminate its life if it can be saved.
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