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Army Orders Bible Verses Scraped Off Scopes

Ken325 Wrote: Apr 23, 2013 10:00 PM
Why is it that when a violation of the Establishment Clause is pointed out, people say someone "was offended". Being offended has nothing to do with it. I am not offended in the least by, for example, the 10 Commandments on a courthouse lawn or posted in a public school. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a violation of the Establishment Clause, so I would support efforts to remove it.
Earl29 Wrote: Apr 23, 2013 10:11 PM
It is not a violation of the establishment clause to put those designators on the sights. That was done by a private company, not by the government. If there is a violation, it is by the government trying to interfere with the First Amendment rights of the company.
ReddestNeck Wrote: Apr 23, 2013 10:06 PM
You mean the clause as swollen up and distended at the attentions of historically ignorant leftist lawyers in robes. This is the kind of either cowardly or craven attitude that has systematically wiped reminders of faith from the public square, when original intent was that Congress was forbade to bless a single denomination of Christianity over the others -- there would be no "Church Of America" denomination like there was a "Church of England."
ReddestNeck Wrote: Apr 23, 2013 10:08 PM
... and of course, neither would any faith be forbidden practice either.
Earl29 Wrote: Apr 23, 2013 10:18 PM
You left out illiterate lawyers in robes. Of course, you are right.
Ken325 Wrote: Apr 25, 2013 5:50 PM
The US Supreme Court was established and authorized under the Constitution to interpret the Constitution. Their opinions are just as valid as the Constitution.
Major Kid, USMC Wrote: Apr 23, 2013 10:04 PM
It is NOT a violation of anything except your desire to control what others may see, do or say in public places. The ONLY thing the "establishment clause" forbids is Congress establishing a national religion, and/or interfering in the way one practices his religion.
Ken325 Wrote: Apr 25, 2013 5:50 PM
The US Supreme Court was established and authorized under the Constitution to interpret the Constitution. Their opinions are just as valid as the Constitution.

The U.S. Army is directing troops to remove a Bible inscription that a vendor etched into the serial numbers of weapon scopes, Fox News has learned.

Soldiers at Fort Wainwright in Alaska told Fox News they received a directive to turn in their scopes so the Bible references could be removed.

The scopes were made by Trijicon and referenced New Testament passages in John 8:12 and Second Corinthians 4:6. The verses appeared at the end of the scope serial numbers – “JN8:12” and “2COR4:6.”

“The biblical verse (JN8:12) must be removed utilizing a dremel type tool and then painted black,” read...