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Libertarians' Awkward Bedfellows

Ken1984 Wrote: Feb 27, 2013 7:05 AM
I have to support Coulter here. "Marriage" was created as a way of bringing up children and ensuring the success of families so they can raise children. The gay community is attempting to corrupt the definition of "marriage" for their own purposes, and in doing so is making the definition laughable. But it is probably too late to save the traditional definition now, anyway. But that doesn't make Coulter wrong. She is right that a true marriage is between a man and a woman. The whole thing got off on the wrong foot when government got involved. Time to end "marriage" all together. Instead of marriage, I'd recommend people who want to join together, in what ever form, should draw up contracts. They shouldn't bother with the certificate. KenC
francisdesales Wrote: Feb 27, 2013 7:31 AM
Society has already removed virtue and values from the schools by turning religion into a "private" matter, a complete misunderstanding of the exclusion clause. Where exactly do you expect people to learn values nowadays? Parents are "too busy" and schools are teaching these young "libertarians" that gay marriage is a "right". They are missing the boat on a fundamental issue, thinking that "American values" are simply inherited by being born in America. Values are taught - and it isn't getting done.

The government has an interest in supporting the institution. Why else would particular forms of sex be rewarded and protected?

Ken1984 Wrote: Feb 27, 2013 7:50 AM
Once you hand any institution over to the government, you are kissing goodbye to any values or virtue. I believe the only way to get government out of marriage is to bypass the government. The best way to do that is with a legal contract and dispense with the government certificate. That doesn't mean you can't go to your local church and have a "wedding" or whatever you call it. You can. As for the idea of American values, parents can teach them just as well with or without a government certificate.

KenC

Last week, Conservative pundit Ann Coulter told me and a thousand young libertarians that we libertarians are puss- -- well, she used slang for a female body part.

We were in Washington, D.C., at the Students for Liberty conference, taping my TV show, and she didn't like my questions about her opposition to gay marriage and drug legalization.

"We're living in a country that is 70 percent socialist," she says. "The government takes 60 percent of your money. They take care of your health care, your pensions ... who you can hire ... and you (libertarians) want to suck up to...