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No Rights of Conscience for Military Chaplains?

kellykafir Wrote: May 20, 2012 7:17 AM
I worked for chaplains for 20 years. Trust me, no matter who gives what "order" - it is not a legal order and the chaplains who object to this will not be forced to perform these ceremonies. Chaplains could determine who they married even before this. The only people this is going to affect will the the chaplain's assistants who will have to come in on Saturday to watch Mary Mullet and Betty Birkenstock get married in the base chapel. Although the chaplains have been and will continue to be allowed to determine who they marry, the base chapel will be used to perform these "marriages". What will be funny is to see Mary and Betty ask for counseling after one of them cheats on the other & the fight over base housing!
Tinsldr2 Wrote: May 20, 2012 7:36 AM
You are correct about the chaplains not having to officiate and the assistants having to work extra goes with the territory of being enlisted..

But as long as there is DOMA, they dont get base housing. Of course DOMA is unconstitutional and will be repealed eventually either by the Court.
Jay Wye Wrote: May 20, 2012 8:19 PM
This is all about the REDEFINITION of "marriage" to be something it's never been,and thus FORCING other states to recognize the abomination via Article IV,sec 1.

Of course,some people IGNORE the second part of Article IV,sec 1;
"and the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts,Records,and Proceedings shall be proved,and the Effect thereof."
Congress "prescribed the manner" by enacting DOMA.
THAT alone allows DOMA to be Constitutional.

Congress is SPECIFICALLY given the power to decide,and they did.

When President Obama prepared to repeal the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy in July 2011, defenders of marriage and religious freedom warned that the repeal would open Pandora’s Box. Military chaplains even sought congressional action to protect their rights of conscience.

The predominant concern was that the President’s actions would usher in attempts to redefine marriage on military installations, which would, in turn, force chaplains to perform the ceremonies for same-sex couples in uniform.

As one might expect, the people who voiced these concerns were mocked the way Orville and Wilbur Wright were mocked for believing men could fly....