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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 11:17 PM
These connections are common suppositions only and not official church doctrine, in the same way that numerology in its many forms can tell us secrets about the 'mysteries' of God if only we were clever enough to decipher them. It is fun to play with them in our heads, but to trust our salvation to them is dangerous to say the least.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 11:12 PM
You are right, Genesis 4:15 says" and the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him." There is no reference there to the form that mark took or whether it passed to his descendants. Some people assume that it is a dark skin. They believe that this mark was passed beyond the flood through Ham's wife. Ham's son Canaan was also "cursed' as a result of the incident when Noah was drunk, but again there was no reference to the form that curse took except that he was made Shem's servant. The Canaanite people who inhabited the land at the time of the exodus were a dark skinned race. Putting these things together it is possible to see how someone with an ax to grind might assume that the mark or curse was a dark skin.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 10:51 PM
Again, would you ask a rabid progressive to explain the beliefs of conservatives?? If you want to know what we believe go to LDS.org or mormon.org. if you want ammunition to malign mormons by all means go to those other sites, but don't expect reasoned people to pay attention to you. Your credibility will be suspect because any resources they may have are not primary sources.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 10:40 PM
Check your facts!! mormon.org tells what we believe. Have you asked a Morman what they believe? Would you go to a progressive to find out what conservatives believe?? If you did you would get the same level of twisted facts as you have laid out here. Is it a lie to knowingly pass on information that is full of half truths and outright falsehoods? If so then you are the liar, not Romney.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 10:27 PM
That is the core of our beliefs. The rest is just window dressing. How are Muslims who do not even believe in the divinity of Christ and do not consider the Bible to be sacred scripture closer in doctrine than Mormons? Explain your reasoning???
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 10:24 PM
I just don't understand why people think that Muslims are closer to Christianity than Mormons. Aside from the obvious differences in the nature of the Godhead (or Trinity as it is called by those churches who follow the concepts codified by the Nicean creed hundred of years after the apostles were all martyred with none to replace them) , the addition of the Book of Mormon as a testament of Jesus Christ, and the concept of continuing revelation there is little difference between LDS doctrine and other Christian sects. We revere Jesus as our Savior and redeemer as you do. We believe that He died for our sins, rose on the third day and ascended to heaven to prepare a place for us.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 10:13 PM
Can you tell me where the Ark of the covenant is? or perhaps those stone tablets that were kept inside it for all those centuries? God has a way of protecting sacred things from being defiled by evil men. Why is it surprising that He would keep the plates safe until we had need of the rest that were not translated at the time.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 10:09 PM
Gold was used because it is one of the few metals that does not oxidize and corrode or rust. Its value for monetary purposes is irrelevant and was specifically warned against when Joseph was first shown the plates. When Joseph learned to read, it was by reading the Bible (standard practice at the time). It is unsurprising that the when he translated, the result would have a similar feel. What he could not have known was the existence of Hebrew poetic forms used liberally in the Bible such as Chiasmus etc, that also appear in the Book of Mormon. As an unschooled farm boy on the American frontier with only three years of formal education, he would not have known what they were or how to recreate them.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 9:56 PM
Have you read the Book of Mormon yourself? I have read it several times and nowhere in there are there references to "magic panties"(not a mormon word -they are called temple garments), planets, polygamy as a requirement for salvation, etc. The concepts you reference in such a crude manner are found in modern revelation, and the reality of them is far different than you portray them. For instance, to qualify for the Celestial Kingdom (highest level of heaven) one must participate in several ordinances and covenants such as baptism, and some others that take place in the temple, the most important of which is eternal marriage. Polygamy is not a requirement, and at this time, it is also cause for excommunication from the church.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 9:38 PM
Referring to the Lamanite people. (Native Americans, Aztecs/ Mayans etc. - not Africans or descendants of Cain.) Could this just be a genetic mutation in one isolated group of people, which was interpreted this way due to a lack of understanding of science. Many things were attributed to God which could be explained in scientific ways in the Bible as well. And who is to say that God didn't introduce the gene for dark pigment for his own purposes- He certainly has the power, and who can presume to understand the mind and will of God. Certainly not me, I am not that arrogant. "Cursed with the same cursing" sounds like it is a dominant gene. If you have children, they will have the same pigment in their skin.
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kcollins Wrote: Apr 15, 2012 9:19 PM
In the end there was no need for violence in any of the situations involving the church as a whole. (When the army commander got to Utah and actually talked to the leaders and saw the peaceful community they had built, they turned around and went home) This is one more example of the lies and twisted half truths that have been the norm for our enemies since the founding of the church.
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