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Secession and Other Fantasies

kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:48 PM
* The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form? The point that "We the People" do not accept this illegal taking over of OUR legitimate government by those traitors and domestic enemies is the point of seceeding. We will still be the United States of America under the US Constitution - but we will NO LONGER support a government taken over by enemies of the USA. (con't)
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:05 PM
"America's glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is in the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, FREEDOM, INDEPENDENCE, PEACE. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice." John Adams
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:05 PM
"There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men and become the instruments of their own undoing." Daniel Webster
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:05 PM
If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav’d. This will be their great Security”. John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson

‘A good government is one "which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread that it has earned.’ Thomas Jefferson (inaugural address)

”I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government; I mean an additional article taking from the Federal Government the power of borrowing”. Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:04 PM
“The Constitution is colorblind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.” John Marshall (That does not account for the peoples attitudes then anymore then it does now.)

Benjamin Franklin said: "The Constitution only guarantees the American people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:03 PM
“The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe”. Abraham Lincoln

“If Congress has a right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given to them to use by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations”. Andrew Jackson

Amazing how much more educated our forefathers were then compared tthose within our government today, isn't it?
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:02 PM
"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world." Thomas Jefferson to A. L. C. Destutt de Tracy

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered”. Thomas Jefferson
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:01 PM
“I ... place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers to be feared... And to preserve (our) independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude”. Thomas Jefferson, from a letter to Governor Plumer

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, Monticell
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 1:00 PM
. It is one of the great principles that distinguishes this “land of liberty” from other countries”. J. Reuben Clark

“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” Patrick Henry

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance." James Madison
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:59 PM
“God provided that in this land of liberty, our political allegiance shall run not to individuals, that is, to government officials, no matter how great or how small they may be. Under His plan our allegiance and the only allegiance we owe as citizens or denizens of the United States, runs to our inspired Constitution which God himself set up. So runs the oath of office of those who participate in government. A certain loyalty we do owe to the office which a man holds, but even here we owe just by reason of our citizenship, no loyalty to the man himself. In other countries it is to the individual that allegiance runs. This principle of allegiance to the Constitution is basic to our freedom. (con't)
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:58 PM
, that all will be done for the best.
What has destroyed liberty and the rights of man in every government which has ever existed under the sun? The generalizing and concentrating all cares and powers into one body." Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph C. Cabell

"Our Constitution was not written in the sands to be washed away by each wave of new judges blown in by each successive political wind". Hugo L Black, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:57 PM
"The way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent to.
Let the national government be entrusted with the defense of the nation, and its foreign and federal relations; the State governments with the civil rights, law, police, and administration of what concerns the State generally; the counties with the local concerns of the counties, and each ward direct the interests within itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these republics from the great national one down through all its subordinations, until it ends in the administration of every man’s farm by himself; by placing under every one what his own eye may superintend,
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:57 PM
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” Abraham Lincoln

”We, the people, are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution” Abe Lincoln

"On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:56 PM
Since you obviously do not know what our legitimate government allows; or you are supporting the destruction of the USA - let me educate you.
"Under the American Constitution a new structure of government was established on a much higher plane than either the parliamentary system or the confederation of states. It was a people’s constitutional republic, where a certain amount of power was delegated to the states and a certain amount was delegated to the national government. There was a small dimension of power which they shared jointly. All other power was retained by the people. It is the delegation by the people of certain powers to the states and certain powers to the national government which we call ‘dual federalism.’" W. Cleon Skousen
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:54 PM
(bruden is miss spelled; "burden)
That is what "We the People" do not accept. We no longer are going to allow those who temporarily serve within the three branches of the federal government (or the agencies they illegally put into place) get away with corruption, treason, etc.

By seceeding we will no longer be dealing with those corrupt individuals who had no morals or honesty and sold out America and her people to anyone offering anything. Streetwalkers have better morals.
kbright Wrote: Nov 21, 2012 12:52 PM
Lets talk about the meaning of words. "Freedom" now has two meanings: Constitutional - where an individual is free to decide when he gets up, goes to sleep, how much education taken, what job is worked at, drives a car, buys a house, dates, gets married, has children or not, etc.

Obama & Romney's socialist version of "Freedom" - They take the bruden of making all those decisions away from the individual. The individual is made free by a person in pwer decding what they eat, drink, when they sleep, what job they work at, what education they will take, if they will be allowed to date, marry, have children, what type of medical they will have access to, etc.

A version of this column appeared originally in THE DAILY BEAST.

Some fringe conservatives seem perversely determined to turn a stinging electoral defeat into an epic, sweeping disaster. That’s the deeper meaning of current talk about impeachment, secession, third parties, civil disobedience, and onrushing apocalypse.

The Conservative Majority Fund has announced a new robocall campaign to build support for impeaching President Obama over mishandling of the affair in Benghazi, Libya, and alleged malfeasance on a host of other issues. Meanwhile, petitions demanding the secession of Texas, Alabama, and at least a half dozen other states have already gathered tens...