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Missouri Takes Lead Reducing Gun and Domestic Violence

JustMC Wrote: Feb 12, 2013 9:49 AM
David Usher, author of the article, wrote in the comments below: "Pharmaceuticals ARE mood altering substances and qualify under this legislation. There are many pharmas that are associated with violent tendencies." Let's look at the logic of the bill, folks. Mr. Usher wants to circumvent the standard due process and its protections of the individual as "innocent until proven guilty." That is what the bill does. Get someone branded as a "substance abuser" by the elite DECIDERS of the "abuse panel" and the newly branded "substance abuser" IN THEIR WORDS "loses it all." Not for any actual crimes or threats committed by that individual, but for the mere statistical "association" between substance abuse generally, and crime.
JustMC Wrote: Feb 12, 2013 9:50 AM
Think about that for a moment. The decision by an "abuse panel" to pin a GROUP LABEL on you means you "LOSE IT ALL" if you don't "seek recovery" as defined by them. And your crime? Membership in the group by which they've labeled you. Not for what you've ACTUALLY DONE, but for some statistical RISK.

Blacks are 12.5% of the population but they commit 45% of the violent crimes. By this bill's logic, we should be able to force blacks to "seek recovery" for their blackness or "LOSE IT ALL."

Men are slightly less than half the population but nearly 10 times as likely to commit murder as women. Should men be forced to "seek recovery" for their sex or risk "LOSING IT ALL?"
JustMC Wrote: Feb 12, 2013 9:54 AM
How much more likely is a person with possession of a gun to shoot someone than a person without a gun? Probably a lot more likely. Should individual gun owners thus lose rights for some notion of statistical risk rather than for their ACTUAL behavior as individuals? OF COURSE NOT. This sort of assault usually comes from the establishment left, but don't fall for it just because it has a different origin. Its twisted logic is the same.

Almost nothing in history is more dangerous than the concept of using force of government against individuals, not for their own actions, but for a group label that has been pinned upon them.

At best this bill is the naive stuff of fools. More likely it is despicable and totalitarian,...
JustMC Wrote: Feb 12, 2013 9:55 AM
as it undermines the most noble protections of the individual before the law, demanded, earned and accorded only to very few in history, through many years of toil, bloodshed and sacrifice.

Missouri House Bill 402 is a major step forward reducing gun violence, domestic violence, and other forms of serious violence. For decades, federal and state policy attempting to impact these growing problems failed because the policies were pointed in the wrong direction.

Substance abuse in the family is the leading factor and primary driver of many kinds of gun-related crimes, domestic violence, and other offenses.

Substance abuse is tightly bound to domestic violence. Three-quarters of serious domestic violence is associated with substance abuse at the time of violence (Fig 3). This statistic does not include substance abusers who...