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A Real Term Limit

jturning Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 10:47 PM
The problem isn't the career politicians, but the voters that re-elect these miscreants. The numbers don't lie, and just a little time looking at the debt numbers, that our country doesn't pass a budget, and we spend well above what we take in should be enough for any reasonable person to not pick our current leaders that were re-elected. But we have too many people voting that are delusional about their own lives not to mention how the country is being run. But rest assured time is running out and the wise will leave before before the house of cards crumbles down on those responsible. Every man's sin will find him because God will make it so, unless of course you take Him up on His offer of Grace and repent.
Writer4 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 9:43 PM
I would say that both voters and the politicians are the problem. We don't say that if justified curbs on power are not respected by persons in power, the "only" problem is voters. Institutional features, including constitutional mandates and prohibitions, are relevant to maintaining legitimate curbs on the exercise of governmental power. Voters don't vote in a vacuum. If term limits are in place, voters can still default on the responsibility of judging candidates appropriately, but it would be easier for them to fulfill their responsibilities on a more regular basis.

Since there is no God, the latter part of jturning's comment is fallacious and irrelevant.
Daniel982 Wrote: Mar 21, 2013 9:47 AM
Those who count the votes decide elections. Why do you think the (in)justice department has fought voter ID so savagely?
Daniel982 Wrote: Mar 21, 2013 9:47 AM
Those who count the votes decide elections. Why do you think the (in)justice department has fought voter ID so savagely?
jmg11 Wrote: Mar 21, 2013 12:44 AM
I know you mean well, but the problem IS the career politicians. That is the case whether you think the voters are the root of the problem or not. As long as politics is a viable career, we will have the same problems.
The main thing wrong with the term limits movement is the "s" at the end of the word "limit."

What are advocates of term limits trying to accomplish? If they are trying to keep government from being run by career politicians, whose top priority is getting themselves reelected, then term limits on given jobs fail to do that.

When someone reaches the limit of how long one can spend as a county supervisor, then it is just a question of finding another political office to run for, such as a member of the state legislature. And when the limit on terms there is...