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5 Signs Of Societal Degeneration In America

jturning Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 1:06 PM
And America just elected a man that has been one of the worst liars ever elected to be president. The sad part is America ate up his Marxist rhetoric, and the ignorance of the people that voted for him is astounding. I've tried to talk about the debt and many other facts around the workplace, but it falls on deaf ears. In their gloating after the election they would say some of the stupidest things reminding me of the Howard Stern piece Drudge linked to once where the man on the street had no clue. The tide has turned in America and morality and character are now in the minority. Just be prepared to leave before its too late. Find a country with more economic freedom to reside, and heritage.org keeps a list America is sliding down.
wtmoore1 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 3:28 PM
Yeah, yeah, America is going to h*ll in a handbasket, blah, blah, blah.

How do you think progressives felt when this country reelected Bush? We looked around at our friends and neighbors like, "How could you be this stupid?" That's the great thing about politics. It doesn't bring us together, so much as it just spreads that feeling around.

But seriously, I'm not sure that people finding other concerns more pressing than debt indicates that they are ignorant. I'm in the camp that believes conservative voices NEVER think it's the "right time" to raise taxes or enact social change for the better.

If your argument for dealing with the debt includes stymieing social progress and programming, I would expect that it would fall on deaf ears.
Topeka Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 3:40 PM
wt more,

I can tell you have nothing to lose.

I on the other hand have nothing to gain.

Who will Bambam get to pick his cotton when he has no more geese to cook?
wtmoore1 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 4:05 PM
Topeka,

I have no idea what you are trying to say. If you are indicating that I'm on some sort of government welfare program, so I have "nothing to lose," I'm sad to inform you that I'm not. Aside from student loans, I have never taken advantage of a government program in my life. However, I don't think people who do are necessarily blameworthy for that very fact. And that's a perception that I'm willing to fight to change. So in that respect, I have much to lose.

It's true that the "good old days" weren't always good, but we should also remember that our belief that we're completely superior to previous generations of Americans doesn't even remotely square with reality. It's fine to pat ourselves on the back for being wealthier, more educated and considerably less racist than we used to be, but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that those less educated, backward people in their antiquated clothes were head and shoulders better than we are in a myriad of other ways. We should remember that the real problem isn't having a problem; it's having a...