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Is Jay-Z “Lazy, Drunk and Stinky?” Let’s Ask His T-shirt Icon, Che Guevara

jtholden82 Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 12:21 PM
Where's your "stat" on Che not being a racist, murder? That's really the point here.
YassirSanchez Wrote: May 03, 2013 2:25 PM
Yes because the US has the medical facilities to keep those fetuses viable to the point where they can become viable.

ANYONE who thinks ANYTHING is better in a Communist country is a tool. And a pretty dull tool at that.


North Korea has all sorts of statistics showing that life is better there than in the US too, as they resort to cannabilism to keep from starving.
McGovern Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 6:36 PM
No, it's not wrong.

Why not check some WHO information rather than just show how ignorant you are?
DagNabbit Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 3:53 PM
"That's because other countries don't count a baby dying on its birth date as a live birth"

BZZZT! Wrong again!
Don664 Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 3:39 PM
You'll have to prove that to me. With proveable figures. Cuba is still an oppressive socialist nation. Making the trains run on time doesn't change that.
McGovern Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 1:24 PM
You really are stupid, aren't you?

1. "and more infants die on their birthday in the US than anywhere else"

That's because other countries don't count a baby dying on its birth date as a live birth.

2. "the US has 3 times the number of low weight (under 2500 grams) births than Cuba."

That's because other countries don't count underweight and premature babies as live births. In fact, until living baby gains enough weight, Cuba doesn't even count it as a "live" birth.
DagNabbit Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 1:21 PM
DagNabbit Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 1:16 PM
LOL. Sure. If a 400 gram infant is born in the US, a doctor will try to keep it alive, but if it dies (and more infants die on their birthday in the US than anywhere else) it's considered a mortality. But remember: the US has 3 times the number of low weight (under 2500 grams) births than Cuba.
McGovern Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 1:10 PM
So that's what's behind your defense of Che?

The evil U.S. corporations!

It's OK to torture and imprison gays, it's OK to execute political prisoners. As long as it keeps those evil corporations out!
DagNabbit Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 1:05 PM
"Where's your "stat" on Che not being a racist, murder? That's really the point here"

Actually, it isn't. Expat Cubans like Humbert here try very hard to make the case that Cuba is a hellhole TODAY, and that the common perception that average income actually rose after the revolution is false. Well, it is, actually, but that's only because there were so few during Battista who were stealing all the wealth. Cuba is not a hellhole. And while I don't have any affection or admiration for Che, I would not want to see the place fall into the hands of the US and its money grubbing corporations after Castro's gone.
McGovern Wrote: Apr 13, 2013 12:59 PM
Here we go again with this stupid statistic, which has been proven untrue over and over.

In Cuba, a "live" birth does not mean what a "live" birth means in the U.S.

In fact, most of the rest of the world uses quite a different definition.

When all babies that are born alive are counted as "live" births, the U.S. has the 3rd lowest infant mortality rate in the world. Of course, uneducated idiots like DagNabbit can't understand that.
“The Negro is indolent and spends his money on frivolities and drink, the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent…The Negro has maintained his racial purity by his well known habit of avoiding baths.”

Che Guevara wrote these lines in his famous “Motorcycle Diaries.” But you will search Robert Redford’s famous movie based on the book in utter vain for their mention. Redford, this muscular champion of “artistic freedom,” by the way, meekly acquiesced in screening The Motorcycle Diaries for Che's widow (who heads Cuba's Che Guevara Studies Center) and Fidel Castro for their approval before release.

"N**ger!" taunted...

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