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Amnesty Won't Elect Republicans

jtheb Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 6:22 AM
Look. It's past time to stop beating our heads against the wall...AND taking a beating at the polls. The issue has been framed and will not be dislodged. The argument lost. To be honest , right now President Bush's Z visas are sounding pretty reasonable. A path to citizenship might not be necessary . A simple path to legality for those desiring to work here might do the trick to take away a weapon of the left. We have LOST the argument , I don't care how right we feel we are about this. It is irrelevant. The longer we stay stubborn , the longer we'll lose elections , and more permanently.
Texas Chris Wrote: Nov 28, 2012 11:22 AM
Why not Ron Paul's plan?

Seal the border
Grant work visa
No anchor babies
No welfare, HUD, free education / healthcare
Mountain Rose Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:12 PM
We are not slaves to the wiles of the radical Left.

We need to create ways to get our message out instead of whining and wringing our hands.

The lefties lie about us.

OK so now what? Let them win the debate because they framed us?

NO!
Roll Tide Libertarian Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 12:55 PM
Any path to "legality" will lead to this:

Republicans refuse to grant citizenship to legal residents, minorities hit hardest.
Texas Chris Wrote: Nov 28, 2012 11:22 AM
Roll Tide Libertarian Wrote: Nov 28, 2012 11:56 AM
I guess my point was a little subtle. jtheb wants to grant to those here illegally a path to legal residence in the USA so that Republicans would stop taking a beating. My point was that granting anything less than full citizenship would cause the beatings to double. And if we granted them full citizenship, we would probably do it too slow, more beatings for Republicans.

Bottom line is, Republicans are not going to win votes by trying to become the New Democrat Party. This election wasn't lost because of immigration. It was lost because Democrats defined Republicans in the terms they wanted. Republicans need to stop letting Democrats define them and stop taking advise from them.
The Republican strategists who confidently predicted that their candidate, Mitt Romney, would win the 2012 election are already pontificating about what Republicans must do to win in 2016. After their disastrous defeat, strategy and policy mistakes and expensive super PAC advertising that failed to win votes, why should anybody take their advice again?

The elitists now tell us that amnesty for illegal aliens, aka "immigration reform," is the key to future Republican nirvana. That's wrong-headed advice.

Barack Obama sealed his victory in the battleground states: Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia and New Hampshire, but those states have very few Hispanics, and illegal...

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