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How Money Walks: Out of California, Into Texas

jspopin Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 4:20 PM
from the article: "From 2000 to 2009, the Census Bureau estimates, there has been a domestic outflow of 1,509,000 people from California -- almost as many as the number of immigrants coming in." Sounds like it's pretty stable. Also, average income on California in 2009: $58,931 in Texas in 2009: $48,044. Texas is drawing low-paying, low education jobs. How many high tech firms seek out locations where they can't get quality employees? Low pay, less state amenities, poor public health care, less-than-Sterling education prospects...sounds like the ideal place for the right wing.
chamuiel Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 6:22 PM
jspopin, oh those of you who know so little.

48,000 in Texas will buy you what 80,000 will in Kalifornia. Texas does does not over price nor over tax the way kalifornia does. If you have no idea of what you are talking about, then please just be quiet.
jspopin Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 11:24 PM
So the State of Texas sets property values. Wow. Here I always thought the value of property was dependent upon the desirability of the location. Yes, property is more expensive in California because the location is more desirable. Isn't that a "Free Market" concept? Isn't the Real Estate mantra: location, location, location.
No one has provided any evidence that "the ones coming in are illegals..." Typical Right wing shoot-from-the-lip, regurgitate-Conservative-media spittle.
Joseph64 Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:12 PM
The thing you are overlooking is the quality of the people going out vs the people coming in. Those 1.5 million who fled California are people who work, pay taxes, and aren't a burden on social services. The ones coming in are illegals who work off the book, therefore driving wages down, pay no taxes and are overburdening the social services. Another thing, your average wage calculation is only valid if you include what the illegal aliens make and not just what the people on the books who can be tracked earn.
Joseph64 Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:13 PM
1.5 million people slaving away for less than minimum wage drives your figure for the average California wage way down.
jspopin Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:57 PM
Where is the evidence that they are all "Illegals"?
Joseph64 Wrote: Mar 24, 2013 6:48 AM
N***a, please. There's more Mexicans in California than there are in Mexico City.
jimmylynn Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:02 PM
jspopin,
Pi_ssed off at that migration pattern? If you're numbers are true and you didn't back them up with anything and I'm not going to waste my time on your research, I'd be willing to guess that it might be possible because Texas has such a lower cost of living than California. People in California have to make more to pay more....and usually for less than you would get for your money in Texas.
jspopin Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:56 PM
the migration pattern numbers came from the above article...Pi_ssed off you didn't read it
Carlos7 Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 4:27 PM
Texas gained $26 billion while California lost $51 billion over the past 10 years.

How is that a good thing for California?
jspopin Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 4:41 PM
$26 billion...for what? Where were CA losses? Little details like that make a difference. Also, what is going to keep the businesses now leaving California for Texas, leaving the lone Star State in the future for Mexico or China to lower costs.
William... Carpinteria CA Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:00 PM
Hay clueless jspopin ... one little detail to be considered is the price of a modest home ... Texas vs Ca
Joseph64 Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:16 PM
Exactly. My brother bought a house about 6 years ago in NJ and I have been shopping house prices in North Carolina and I can get a bigger house than he has for 10% of what he paid for his and he also makes a helluva lot more money than I do so I can live better than he does for less money just by living in NC where expenses are much lower.
jspopin Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 5:30 PM
Alas Witless William...a modest house near the ocean, or maybe the mountains, or among towering redwoods with an incredible diversity of relaxation options versus a modest home in Midland with sagebrush and rattlesnakes and miles and miles of...what, oil wells and cattle? I have lived in both and much prefer California. California's financial problems started with Prop 13 and the GOP trying to "drowned the government in a bath tub".
In the United States today, interstate migration is becoming a more and more prominent topic. A new book called How Money Walks has used IRS data to put hard numbers to which states are losing and which states are gaining wealth due to interstate migration.

Most of it won't surprise you: the northeast and the rust belt states, along with California, are losing residents at incredibly high rates. Most of the south and southwest is gaining. Texas, Florida, Arizona, and Colorado lead the way in total wealth gained due to migration. Some are surprising, though: Washington State,...