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Joseph64 Wrote: Mar 14, 2013 11:45 AM
agitator Wrote: 16 minutes ago (10:28 AM) "so joseph and mary had sexual relations? " Not prior to the birth of Jesus, but they obviously did after as evidenced in Mark 6:3 "Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him." So, apparently, Mary and Joseph went on to have a large family after the birth of Jesus, who was of God and not Joseph. So Mary was still a virgin even after the birth of Jesus because she had not been with a man. God put the baby Jesus in her womb in some divine manner that we are incapable of knowing, not by sex. Your point was that she was an unwed mother, which she wasn't.
goldilocks Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 9:45 AM
j, so when did she get married?

when did she have sexual relations with joseph?

when did she have other children?

my catholic friends would disagree with you!
dfreyberger Wrote: Mar 14, 2013 1:26 PM
This is not the place for this, but "brothers" and "sisters" translate words more properly rendered as "kinsmen" or "kinswomen". That is, relatives, not necessarily children of the same mother and father. In addition, Joseph was an old man when he took Mary as his spouse, to protect her, in her pledged virginity. He certainly had children prior to marrying Mary, and these would be Jesus' brothers and sisters, though not of Mary.
goldilocks Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 9:47 AM
d, thank you for your insight
RVN70USMC Wrote: Mar 14, 2013 11:56 AM
Agitator has no point. He/she is just an unhappy liberal person that tries to bring everyone else down. One must pity the fool!
rickmcq Wrote: Mar 14, 2013 12:03 PM
Agitator continually squirms when pinned down, and he reacts by trying to distract rather than to elucidate.
goldilocks Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 9:46 AM
goldilocks Wrote: Mar 15, 2013 9:46 AM
r, it is hard to elucidate to conservative intellecutals

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