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ObamaCare Will Cost Your Family at Least $20,000

Jon Russo Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 12:27 AM
I wonder if the GOP will have my back when I defy the mandate?
RiffRaff Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 12:44 AM
Let's say you choose to defy the mandate rather than con the system and use it against them. According to the Supremes it's a tax and the IRS claims you're not paying your taxes and therefore seizes assets or garnishes your wages. Eventually, assuming they haven't driven you into bankrupcy your failure to cooperate will result in imprisonment as a tax evader. Assuming there are thousands of people like you who refuse to pay, and there will be, there isn't enough jail space. Obamacare is not enforceable for many reasons and this is just one of them.
Ress Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 12:54 AM
Obamacare will end in chaos. The federal government can't even do a simple job competently, much less a tangled mess like this.
restoreliberty Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 1:09 AM
You must be another one that hasn't read the bill or the SCOTUS ruling. The tax is a non-punitive tax, which means the IRS cannot seize assets, levy accounts, charge additional penalties or interest, garnish wages, or file criminal charges. Furthermore, Chf. Justice Roberts was clear that if the IRS is given those powers then the law is null under the 8th Amendment's statutes prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, and excessive fines. The only recourse the IRS has is to withhold refunds. There are several legal ways to avoid the tax, all legal, by reducing the amount of withholding the IRS collects from your paycheck. The law is toothless and the HHS is now in a panic because they know resistance is imminent.
RiffRaff Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 1:36 AM
I hope you're right but if you believe this won't morph into something more 'assertive ' as push comes to shove then you might have a little too much faith in the goob's ability to manage this monstrosity it has created. If taking refunds is the only thing the IRS can do, I imagine a lot of folks will figure out how to reduce their refunds to zero.
Jon Russo Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 1:51 AM
So I guess it's safe to say, "No. The GOP will not have my back. I'll have to fight the IRS on my own.".
RiffRaff Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:09 AM
The GOP, especially the leadership, never had your back. But, there will be new specialties in the legal and accounting professions to advise those who need and can afford their fees. Obama said it would create jobs didn't he?

Ok. First. Think about how much you pay for health insurance currently. Now, think about how much you are going to have to pay under the new ObamaCare laws. Well according to a new IRS regulation released, they assume the average family will pay a minimum of $20,000 for their health care plans.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate...