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Wake Up, Socially Liberal Fiscal Conservatives

Johnny L. Wrote: Jan 18, 2013 11:36 PM
I think the social liberal fiscal conservative types are really just those conservatives who have been sucked into the liberal lie that somehow social conservatives want to impose their morality on everyone else. In truth, we just want to be left alone. Gay marriage for instance, is not about liberty. In any state of America two people of the same sex can go into a church of Satan (or episcopal church), get married, and replicate almost all of the attributes of marriage by contract. The only thing they don't get is state subsidy. Do you really think homosexual relationships are so awesome that the government should use our tax dollars to subsidize them?
SD3 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 9:11 AM
Anyone who wants to adhere to a definition of marriage that is thousands of years old must be pretty wacky. And certainly anyone who thinks we ought to adhere to a contract that all 50 states ratified, is just hopelessly stuck.
alopekos teumesios Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 2:28 AM
If government had nothing to do with the structure and function of private households, they would treat every one of them in a revenue neutral manner, giving subsidies to none. Then there would be little economic incentive for gays to "marry." Marriage would be confined to the church. If government does allow tax breaks for households, it should treat all of them equally. There could be a head of household and dependents. Dependents could be anyone for whom the head of the household provides financial support, whether it's a spouse, child, sibling, lover, elderly relative, etc. That would be fair.
Cambermeister Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 1:05 AM
Blowtorch of Reason Wrote: Jan 18, 2013 11:49 PM
I am not going to get in a full fledged debate on the gay marriage thing in this topic, but you are totally incorrect here.
Stuart95 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 10:41 AM
There is a disconnect in some social conservatives' minds that misses two points of the social liberalism argument.

1) We're not saying your social sensibilities are wrong; just saying that the government has no moral obligation or Constitutional authority to enforce morals, and has a really bad track record when trying to do so.

2) If you insist on the right to impose morals on other thru government orders, by what logic can you argue against the liberals when they are in power and impose THEIR morals, or lack thereof, on you?

Take abortion. Had the government left the issue alone, i.e. between woman and doctor, then we would not be in the spectacle where not only is abortion legality written into law, but many are taxpayer funded!

Dear Socially Liberal Fiscal Conservative Friend,

That's pretty toothy, so I'm going to call you Bob.

But whatever specific name you go by, Bob, you know who you are. You're the sort of person who says to his conservative friends or co-workers something like, "I would totally vote for Republicans if they could just give up on these crazy social issues."

When you explain your votes for Barack Obama, you talk about how Republicans used to be much more moderate and focused on important things such as low taxes, fiscal discipline and balanced budgets.

When Colin Powell was on "Meet the...