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Why the Liberal Hatred of Citizens With Guns

John in OK Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 6:21 AM
Very true. Here in Oklahoma, the .223 Remington/5.56 NATO round isn't even legal for deer hunting. It's simply too underpowered. There's a reason most of our special forces units are going back to the .308 Win/7.62 NATO. They're tired of having to shoot the Talibanners 3-5 times each before they go down.
Kali_Fred Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 11:02 AM
5.56 and .223 cartridges are essentially the same. The chamber spec of the 5.56 is a little different, but a 5.56 can shoot .223 ammo as you say. The .223 can shot 5.56 but it isn't recommended (the shorter leade of the .223 chamber can cause pressure spikes w/5.56 ammo). They both use a .224 bullet and both have very similar "punch". In fact, some .223 ammo has more "punch" than some 5.56 ammo and some 5.56 ammo has more "punch" than some .223 ammo. All depends on the loading and the bullet selected...
NormRx Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 7:40 AM
In Wisconsin the only rifle that is illegal to hunt deer is the .22 rim fire cartridge. Many deer are taken illegally by violators using a .22, you just have to know where to shoot them. My buddy has a mobile butchering truck, he goes to various farms and butchers cattle and pigs on site. He uses a .22, I have never seen him need more than one shot to drop a cow.
Hoosierguy Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 7:03 AM
By the way John, the 5.56 round is different from the .223. While the same caliber, the 5.56 packs a much bigger punch. Not all AR15's can fire the 5.56, but all AR15's that can fire the 5.56 can also fire the .223.
Emberato Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 6:50 AM
I've been reading that tired BS for years. That's why Seal Team Six uses M4's as their primary weapon...
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