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JohnEsq Wrote: Dec 20, 2012 10:14 AM
ok, how about laws that forbid the manufacture and retail sale of assault weapons?
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JohnEsq Wrote: Dec 20, 2012 10:09 AM
which deaths have been prevented by guns in the hands of law abiding citizens (excluding police)? i'm not 'the anti-gun crowd,' i am the anti-assault weapon crowd. you don't need an assault weapon to protect yourself. you DO need an assault weapon if you want to kill a whole bunch of people at a school. your point that would be mass-killers would find something else misses a major point. If Adam Lanza walked into Sandy Hook Elementary wielding a machete, how many kids would he have been able to kill?
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JohnEsq Wrote: Dec 20, 2012 10:08 AM
Adam Lanza used his mom's guns. Are you counting that as illegally obtained? The Columbine killers got their guns and ammo legally - from K-mart. K-mart stopped selling guns/ammo in the aftermath.
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JohnEsq Wrote: Dec 20, 2012 10:04 AM
who is suggesting that firearms should be outlawed? what would you like me to remember about the 2nd Amendment? that it starts with "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,..." regulation of certain types of weapons is not the same as 'outlawing firearms'
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JohnEsq Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 5:04 PM
Sowell also says that “federal studies over the years” have removed all doubt about the futility of gun control laws. Which studies? Sowell says “some years back…” a professor and gun control zealot produced a study that got him fired, and then the 9th Circuit later relied on it. Huh? Which professor? Which ‘study’? Which court case? Any discussion on ‘gun control’ ought to be factually based. In that regard, Sowell’s article is basically useless. Guns are already regulated. The question is whether more or different regulation would reduce the 10,000 or so Americans who are killed every year by guns and/or make it more difficult for would-be mass killers to get their hands on assault weapons.
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JohnEsq Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 5:03 PM
Can we agree that its worth exploring anything that will reduce the likelihood and/or magnitude of mass shootings, like what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday? Gun rights advocates, led by the NRA, like to say that the immediate aftermath of a tragedy is the wrong time to discuss measures for preventing similar tragedies in the future. Why? When is the right time? Mr. Sowell says that gun control only prevents law abiding citizens from obtaining guns, while people bent on violence will get their guns illegally. I’m pretty sure that all of the shooters in the high profile US mass shootings (Columbine, Aurora, Virginia Tech, and Newtown) got their guns lawfully.
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