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Yes, I would mean that I don't know about Don or Bob, but the whole Obamacare package should be repealed. Then: 1 they could help the 5 million that lost their plans. 2. let those that bought plans re-negotiate with their insurance companies 3. then start to look for improvements and debate them this time. Give time enough for all to read the new improvements before voting on hat ever is proposed. 4. Or just leave it all alone and let the market work it out, good or bad, still better than obamacare
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Masters of Deceptive Persuasion

john653 Wrote: Dec 16, 2014 8:53 AM
Chuck, thanks for the validation, Ive been saying this in many blogs, but get no reaction. They have been doing this all along. I see it, but with Obama being re-elected, I guess nobody else does. Ive also thought that our representatives all over should be voting on laws that they feel should be presented to public vote, say one to three times a year. Then if the public vote (national or local) wants obamacare, so be it. The same with the other items, like the budget , etc. Because right now it all depends on so called majorities that can cram any agenda they want as long as they are in office. You have seen what Reid, Pelosi, and Obama can do, even without a majority. They play their little games, and we pay for them. I have often thought that a lot of the stimulus money, Solyndra's, and all the money wasted by our government would have been better spent on return checks to the public.
a crime? I will believe that when I see anybody in this administration go to jail for anything connected with these policies. Until then I wil keep taking these stories with a grain of salt
while this CIA report controversy may have its own merits, I still say that this was only released to deflect attention on the other scandals, mainly immigration. The libs do this all the time. Remember how they try to steer public opinion away from what they are really trying to achieve? Trying to put more blame on Bush seems to always work. And the Republicans unfortunately fall for it every time.
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The CIA and Its Torturers

john653 Wrote: Dec 11, 2014 9:50 AM
Judge, while this CIA report controversy may have its own merits, I still say that this was only released to deflect attention on the other scandals, mainly immigration. The libs do this all the time. Remember how they try to steer public opinion away from what they are really trying to achieve? Trying to put more blame on Bush seems to always work. And the Republicans unfortunately fall for it every time.
Your wrong buddy boy, we see all to well the problems that need fixing. Its not "their way or the highway". , its restore a lot that has been lost and quit the lying, cheating. and no accountability. We are tired of seeing bureaucrats sitting in LV in a hot tub with a glass of wine paid by our money. Benghazi IRS NAS Obamacare Syria ISIS IRAQ Afghanistan Military deserter traded for 5 terrorists our borders not controlled paying for illegal aliens and allowing them benefits including school (most news do not mention that the schools are mostly financed thru property taxes, not paid by the illegals) Allowing foreign children to be disbursed thru out the US and on and on and on
And one more item 'But waiting on the sidelines is an elite media that is salivating over the prospect of a government shutdown' ? Who gives a dam? You don't think they were trying to influence us before the mid term election? We see thru this, we elected the Republicans in spite of the media. We know who Jeremiah Wright is and all the other USA haters and false leaders. Some of us, not me, may have voted for Obama, but I don't think so any more. Also I would like to see voter ID's required. If they are to lazy to get one, then they can eat their vote.
I agree. It almost sounds like the republicans want to treat us like Grubber, that we are to 'STUPID' to see any improvements and / or notice them cowering in the corner. I voted them in to fight Obama and all his policies. I am retired, but I do not want to leave my kids and no great grand kids with this democratic mess created since 2008, and I do not want vibrations or shadows of 9/11 haunting them when I am gone. Do your jobs republicans, clean up this mess starting NOW.
If you are so dammed worried about your job then you just lost my vote
Shutdown, YES! Every time I hear about 2016 being a worry, I want to puke. 2016 will happen no matter how the cowards in DC act. There probably are many of me out here tired of hearing the rhetoric about the next election, especially less than one month after the current election. We elected you to stop Obama. So get busy. If you are so dammed worried about your job ten you just lost vote.
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