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The Atheist Response to Sandy Hook

John5103 Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 12:33 PM
How's this for a rational, God-believing perspective: "Those children who had humbled themselves before God in life will be with him in eternity; the rest will be punished for eternity. The same choice awaits YOU, so repent of your sins today." Religion is not a false hope, but is supposed to be a true message of salvation. It is no consolation to offer false hope in a false god who pardons children whose "innocence" is defined by nothing more than adult sensitivities of youth and cuteness. God is not Santa Claus; he does not judge by appearances, but holds us all accountable for our sins, regardless of age. He sent his Son to die for your sins; the only ones who go to heaven are those who repent and believe.
Wayne from the Hoosier state Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 6:22 PM
I see hell as a jail for the unrighteous who are awaiting their judgment trial. Hell gives up her dead to go before the Judge. Since they are not of God, they have no eternal life...either in hell or anywhere. They go into the Lake of Fire which will consume them. Only God is eternal and His Life.
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 1:49 PM
So by your logic, some of those children who were not devout Christians are being tortured for all eternity. That begs the question as to how any diety could be considered loving or just for perscribing infinite punishment for finite transgressions, even to those who are too young to understand the gravity of such judgment.
Paul266 Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 1:17 PM
John, I agree with most of what you say but the very last phrase troubles me. How do you know what additional grace is available or will be bestowed? I know that Jesus died for our sins and we are told to repent and believe but can you seriously make that final pronouncement?
Dean197 Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 12:57 PM
Your particular version of Christianity has turned you into a moral monster capable of believing that small children deserve eternal torment.
Stacey23 Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 12:45 PM
So, my son, who died in my womb at 16 weeks, and was unable to repent and believe, did not go to Heaven?
DCM in FL Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 12:51 PM
That falls under the category of "age of accountability" -- as in, not having reached.
Chries Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 12:51 PM
"... Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven."

John, don't misuse or abuse the Bible. There are dire consequences for that behavior.
Stacey23 Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 1:43 PM
Correct. Jesus was speaking to adults when he said that. An infant, or a 3 year old, is not capable of thinking deeply enough to understand the consequences of sin, or to even know what constitues sin.
Last week the New York Times published an opinion piece that offered atheism's response to the evil/tragedy in which 20 children and six adults were murdered at the Sandy Hook elementary school in Connecticut.

What prompted Susan Jacoby to write her piece was a colleague telling her that atheism "has nothing to offer when people are suffering."

She wrote the piece, "The Blessings of Atheism" ("It is Here and It is Now!" screams the subhead) to prove her colleague wrong by offering a consoling atheist alternative to religion's consoling belief in an afterlife. Atheists cannot believe that there is any...

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