In response to:

Pelosi: We Don't Have a Spending Problem

John5103 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 4:38 PM
You're spitting in the wind. Democrats think spending is the baseline, and taxes should be as high as necessary to collect as much as is spent. Republicans think taxes are the baseline, and the government should not spend any more than what was taxed. Yes, the Democrat view is irrational, but it is what it is. Arguing facts with them is to invite injury. Better just to point out these opposite viewpoints, and then SEVERELY mock their insanity.
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 5:00 PM
"Democrats think spending is the baseline, and taxes should be as high as necessary..."

And I could turn around and pretend that the worst stereotypes about GOP'ers are the truth, and say "Republicans think blowing up Muslim Peasants is the baseline, and borrowing from China should be as high as necessary..."

Both parties have wracked up debt. The money is not there to entirely fix the problem by taxes, there needs to be much more spending cuts than tax increases. But if you think you'll have a solution with *no* new revenues, when we've had big tax cuts in the past decade, and wealth concentration unprecedented since the 1920's, then you are not being realistic. We should get like 15%-20% of the way there on new revenues, and...
FlamingLiberalMultiCulturalist Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 5:03 PM
then raise the retirement age to make SS & Medicare solvent and get the rest of the way to a balanced budget & paying down the debt.
Bufa Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 5:32 PM
Best not go there.
Estimated 2 or 3 hundred "Muslim peasant" children exterminated by Barrys drone war.
Last I looked he was not a GOP'er.
Also,
Like we all have said here before and I guess needs to be repeated again is,
Taxcuts without spending cuts has never been tried.
Taxcuts do create larger revenues, everytime. But they are spent as soon as they come in.
h20skier2 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 5:53 PM
So, liberals say that privatizing S.S. is risky but now you want to take away everyone's benefit from the current retirement age to whatever new age requirement will make it solvent. Also, according to S.S. own report in a few years they will only be able to pay 75% of the promised benefits. Another great government success story.
RVN70USMC Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 4:51 PM
This is EXACTLY the reason for Prop 13 in California. They would decide how much was needed from property tax to fund their wish list and then they would set the rate accordingly. People were losing their homes due to excessive taxes. Now the liberals just whine and slobber about how many "problems" that Prop 13 has caused when, in reality, it caused no problems; the whiney, slobbering liberals caused the problem...and the voters said enough!

The latest bit of fiscal denialism from a high priestess of the pro-science "reality based community," via yesterday's Fox News Sunday:
 


 

“We have to make a judgment about what -- how do we get growth with jobs, that is where the real revenue comes from. You don’t get it by…cutting your education and cutting back on investments in science and National Institutes of Health, food safety, you name it. So, it isn’t as...