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Have We Lost the Drug Wars?

John281 Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 8:26 AM
Certainly, let's legalize now. While we're at it, let's legalize homicide, since clearly prohibiting it has been of no use. And cheating on one's taxes, and speeding, and adultery, and anything else you might want to do that is prohibited because _you_yourself_ cannot imagine wanting to...but somehow others do. Enforcement of all these laws is SO hard...let's just get rid of all of them. Grow up, people. These things are unlawful not because of their affects on the individuals but because of the secondary effects. Legalizing narcotics will have no effect whatsoever on the trafficking other than to cut down on the number of arrests. Prices, already so high people will sell their children for it, will not move.
Ms Kelly Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 3:40 PM
John:

Since the beginning of time, there have always been people who have wanted to “save others from themselves”. If drugs did not exist, these do-gooders would find something else to prohibit. There are those who want to ban sugar. Some want to ban meat and make us all vegetarians. This may sound like a joke, but these people are dead serious.

Think of your own life. What do you enjoy? Some hobby. Some indulgence. You can bet there is someone, somewhere who thinks it is bad and would love to ban it, whatever “it” is. Many people just can’t accept that people are imperfect and always will be. We will never perfect the state of mankind and shouldn’t try.
kozzzer Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 9:18 AM
If we are looking at this from secondary affects of drug usage, then alcohol use, premarital sex, porn, and all gambling should be criminalized because of the seconday effects

And, "Legalizing narcotics will have no effect whatsoever on the trafficking other than to cut down on the number of arrests." Didn't alcohol smuggling and trafficking go down drastically after Prhibition ended?
kozzzer Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 9:18 AM
If we are looking at this from secondary affects of drug usage, then alcohol use, premarital sex, porn, and all gambling should be criminalized because of the seconday effects

And, "Legalizing narcotics will have no effect whatsoever on the trafficking other than to cut down on the number of arrests." Didn't alcohol smuggling and trafficking go down drastically after Prhibition ended?
Texas Chris Wrote: Jan 08, 2013 8:36 AM
Nice straw man. Drug use has no victim; the user bears responsibility for his actions. Homicide deprives a person, unwillingly, of his life. The victim is not responsible for the murderer's action, therefore murder is a crime.

Drug addicts do steal, they do break into homes, they do cause car crashes... But these are crimes in and of themselves, and punishable under natural law.

Ancillary domestic repercussions are easily avoided... Don't stay married to an addict. Get your kids out of an addict's home.

Drug addiction is a disease, and should be treated with healthcare, not prison time.
Forty-odd (exceedingly odd, I might add) years ago, who would have envisioned a national war against drugs? Nobody took drugs -- nobody you knew, nobody but jazz musicians and funny foreign folk. Then, after a while, it came to seem that everybody did. Drugs became a new front in the war on an old social culture that was taking hard licks aplenty in those days.

I still don't understand why people take drugs. Can't they just pour themselves a nice shot of bourbon? On the other hand, as Gary S. Becker and Kevin M. Murphy argue, in a lucid...