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‘Jesus Christ’ Banned from Council Prayers

John2038 Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 9:16 AM
Would someone let me know where I am wrong in thinking that since the "government" or anyone can't restrict the "free exercise" of the pastor's religion, he can use the name of his Lord anywhere and anytime.
Mokki Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 3:05 PM
Good question. It seems clear to me that the First Amendment protects people's right to use the name of Jesus in their invocations, if that is what their faith teaches. And a tradition of prayer at a City Council meeting is not actually unConstitutional. How tiresome this all is.
Dean197 Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 11:03 AM
Where you're wrong is thinking the council gets to determine what pastors get to speak at their meetings and which ones don't, based on their religion.
Donjindra Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 11:33 AM
"Where you're wrong is thinking the council gets to determine what pastors get to speak at their meetings and which ones don't, based on their religion."

They do that as soon as they appoint *anyone* who speaks for all. They do it by denying that right to those who they don't let speak. This is why the whole idea that we should open such meetings in prayer is wrong. It's exclusionary to begin with.

Ken6226 Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 1:11 PM
"It's exclusionary to begin with."

If you don't like it, you don't have to listen. I know you're going to find this terribly disillusioning, but the world does not revolve around you and your secularist friends.
Donjindra Wrote: Mar 08, 2013 2:03 PM
"If you don't like it, you don't have to listen."

If you don't like it you can pray at home.

"I know you're going to find this terribly disillusioning, but the world does not revolve around you and your secularist friends."

No, you think it revolves around Christians.

The mayor of a Washington town has directed pastors to stop invoking the name “Jesus Christ” in city council invocations.

Don Jensen, the mayor of Longview, Wash., told the Kelso-Longview Ministerial Association that prayers mentioning Christ were not acceptable because they could expose the city to a lawsuit.

The decision has sparked controversy in the city – located about 50 miles north of Portland, Ore.

Mark Schmutz, who pastors the Northlake Baptist Church, said if they can’t speak the name Jesus Christ, association ministers will no longer provide the invocation.

“We need to be able to speak Jesus’ name,” he told...