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The War on Mental Health

John147 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 6:21 PM
We don't need to have people identify themselves as mentally unhealthy. Just make add an online psyche test to the FFL process. The FFL broker is responsible for ensuring that the test is taken by the purchaser. If you pass great! If you don't. Oh well. Ofcourse this means you not only have to be mentally stable but you also have to know how to read and use a computer. Is that too much to ask?
Pat2881 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 7:22 PM
Nice idea, John, but most people who hold a FFL are not qualified to assess the mental status of anyone. As someone who works in the mental health field, a mini mental status exam covers a number of areas that would be difficult to assess with a pencil and paper or computer test. To do one competently, I need to see the person and evaluate their manner and content of speech, physical appearance to assess how well they seem to be glued together as well as a host of other things. It takes awhile to do one which would be more time than the average gun seller is going to want to spend. Part of the problem is the difficulty in getting someone hospitalized against his/her will. Holmes should have been involuntarily committed, but was not.
Pat2881 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 7:25 PM
The reason Holmes was not committed has to do with the difficulty in getting someone committed. He would have had to tell his psychiatrist specifically who he was targeting, how he planned to commit the crime, and specifically when he planned to do it. Otherwise, his doctor was legally bound by doctor-patient confidentiality from contacting the police without the patient's permission. Holmes would never have agreed to that so the doctor's hands were tied. No details = no involuntary commitment.
John147 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 6:23 PM
But that would be secondary to ensuring that there are NO gun free zones! Crazies have to be just as afraid of shooting things up as everyone else!

The Huffington Post reported today that mental health solutions alone can't thwart gun violence.

[B]y shifting the debate away from gun control and toward mental health concerns, proponents run the risk of further stigmatizing mental illness, discouraging those who confront it from seeking professional help. "Most gun violence is just not committed by people with mental illness, were we somehow to stop violence by anyone with a mental illness -- as unlikely as that outcome might be -- we would be safer, but only a teeny bit safer. As much as these incidents attract everybody's attention and concern, they are...