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Marriage Best Left to Churches

Jo334 Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 8:39 AM
Looks like Jackie's stand on "marriage vs. unions" is pretty much what I have been saying all along. Anyone can have a "union." The word "marriage" comes from the Bible and means joining of one man and one woman. So, a same sex couple cannot use the word "marriage" to join together. All the same sex couples need is a legal "union." It is that simple folks!
Bruce2397 Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 9:05 AM
Let's be clear---the word marriage does not "come from the Bible"---the word marriage is "in" the Bible, as are a great many other words. The word marriage is Middle English, coming into usage around the late 13th century. Whatever it was called in the time before Jesus, it wasn't called "marriage"...
Joseph64 Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 9:33 AM
The Old Testament was written before Jesus was born and yet marriage is mentioned in it many times. How do you account for that?
soliton2 Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 8:46 AM
I agree in part.

So what happens for unions which involve multiple partners, incest (including homosexual incest), animals, etc.?
SHould every union be recognized by the state and given tax exemptions,visitor rights, and require healthcare from employers for all parties involved?
poorgrandchildren.com2 Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 9:01 AM
There are not many animals who can be considered to be consenting adults.
soliton2 Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 9:07 AM
Consenting adults requirements won't last very long.
In any event, address the rest.
KevNC Wrote: Dec 13, 2012 8:45 AM
Fine, get the government to endow those unions with all the legal rights and benefits that go with a marriage, and we may be able to come to an agreement. If it's the same b/s unions that currently exist, then we'll pass.

You do realize that her plan would involve heterosexuals only being able to call their religious union a marriage while calling their legal union whatever the agreed upon term will be? Somehow, I'm guessing that this may be a deal breaker for many heterosexual couples.

The current conundrum regarding the legalization of same-sex marriage is what happens when church and state are mixed -- the topics become confusing and confused.

When I married my husband almost 15 years ago, I did so out of love and out of a desire to witness before God my commitment to him and his to me. The legal and tax ramifications did not enter into my head.

But for couples of the same sex, the legal and tax ramifications can be very important because their legal rights differ from those of heterosexual couples in a number of ways,...