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Confirmed: Obamacare is an Unpopular, Shoddy Trainwreck

JMSilver Wrote: Dec 04, 2012 3:01 PM
I still don't see how this is going to be fully funded. With so many companies making many of their positions part time, more and more citizens will have to be required to buy their own insurance by law, since their company doesn't provide it. As a 46 year old woman, I pay $300 per month for a $3000 deductible policy, $3600 a year . If I don't buy health insurance, my tax penalty is much less than that. So what is to stop me from not having insurance, going to the dr. for routine test, and then, if the find something, going and buying insurance for the treatment because my preexisting condition cannot be excluded. If I am incorrect, please someone explain it..
jgraham887 Wrote: Dec 04, 2012 5:48 PM
As in every socialist state everyone will get a little bit. Everyone except the elites, they will have the best. It will be "fair" of course. This isn't about being the best health care system in the world. It isn't even about being an adequate health care system. It is about the progressives idea of fairness; great care for the ruling class and the bare minimum, carefully rationed based on the value of the life of the patient.

If you want to see what we will have in 10 or so years look to England. It is grim.
JMSilver Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 12:51 AM
So true, JGraham. I hear horror stories from some friends who are Finnish. One jokes the best doctor in town is nicknamed "Dr. Death". There are two types of health systems that developed from socialist medicine in Finland. Government doctors who are the bottom of the barrel, poorly educated, and poorly paid. Then, there are the private practices, where the elite will get the best medical care because they can afford it. Quote from Andrew Wilkow "Socialism is for the socialists, not the people."
JMSilver Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 12:51 AM
So true, JGraham. I hear horror stories from some friends who are Finnish. One jokes the best doctor in town is nicknamed "Dr. Death". There are two types of health systems that developed from socialist medicine in Finland. Government doctors who are the bottom of the barrel, poorly educated, and poorly paid. Then, there are the private practices, where the elite will get the best medical care because they can afford it. Quote from Andrew Wilkow "Socialism is for the socialists, not the people."
Nicholas35 Wrote: Dec 04, 2012 3:20 PM
You are correct, JM. What needs explaining? Except for that first test, it's "free" health care! Enjoy it!
Well, for as long as it lasts.
Bigdogoffthechain Wrote: Dec 04, 2012 3:07 PM
there isn't enough money on the planet for this program.

Let's begin with the unpopularity, then move on to the substantive issues.  Sooner or later, the latter will impact the former.  A new poll reveals that the same people who re-elected this president by a three-point margin still oppose his signature "accomplishment" by double-digits.  Independents remain particularly sour on the law, the worst bits of which are slated for implementation over the next two years.  In Jeffrey Anderson's write-up of CNN's poll, he explains why voters didn't unequivocally embrace Obamaism on November 6th (via Mary...

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