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Jim3401 Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 7:50 AM
Your column doesn't describe someone who has fallen away from Christianity. It describes the natural progression of Protestantism, where every man is his own pope, and each is empowered to read scripture for themselves and determine what it means.
The_Nerd_Warrior Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 5:45 PM
*That's* your angle? Really?

Tell me, is the Pope perfect?

Every Catholic I've asked has said no (since Popes of different eras have contradicted each other, they kinda had to).

Why, then, should we trust some *other* fallen, imperfect human to read and interpret scripture for us?

Oh, right... so they can outright LIE about what's in scripture to get us to do whatever they want (Crusades, Inquisition, etc...). Of course.

Do you *like* being ignorant? Do you *like* being oppressed and controlled by someone who holds your very worldview in the palm of their hands?

If it weren't for Protestantism, you'd never have had the CHANCE to read the Bible, because the Vatican would have outlawed printing it for the general public.
J. Galt Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 12:07 PM
Being a Lutheran, I am neither a Catholic or Protestant. Salvation is received through faith, not by acts, as stated in the Bible. I do not believe I am a God, I am subject to a higher authority, I do not get to define that authority as I wish, I do not get to define the truth of hte scriptures as I wish.
The_Nerd_Warrior Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 5:51 PM
Uh... Lutheran? As in Martin Luther? Practically the original Protestant (what, with the 95 Theses, and all...)

Everything else you said made sense, though... but that did not.
Shlomo O'Kelly Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 11:42 AM
Not true, Jimbo. According to II Peter 1:21, "NO prophecy (i.e., forthtelling) of the Scripture is of ANY private interpretation. It came not in old time by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by holy spirit." ...That word "private" is interesting in the Greek. It's the word "idios". Now guess which English word is derived from the word "idios". Please learn that the Scripture interprets itself. It doesn't matter what somebody's opinion of it is. See also Psalm 138:2.
44thWhitePrez Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 10:43 AM
I don't think reading scripture would lead to impregnating young girls and pagan cult practices.
Cleombrotus2011 Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 8:19 AM
Jim3401, I would wager that if you looked you would find the number of Roman Catholics wholes their faith in college far outstrips Protestants.
Dr_Zinj Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 8:09 AM
I think Chris's "problem" is you can use the Bible to justify damn near anything. The point is, the Bible is made up of a large number of separate writings (books). Depending on the religion, and religious scholars, some books are included, and some are not (apocrypha ). Apocrypha used to mean "not authentic", but the original meaning was secret or hidden. You could also say censored. The existence of apocrypha is evidence of media bias by early religious leaders. While the books may be translated fairly faithfully, wholesale inclusion or exclusion changes the story.
king10 - exposing leftism Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 10:12 AM
Actually you cannot use the Bible to justify anything....the only people who do that are Leftist in nature.
The_Nerd_Warrior Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 5:49 PM
The existence of apocrypha is only evidence that people who want to capitalize off a growing religion by writing their own doctrine have always existed.

The canonization of scripture was specifically meant to test for consistency - not "censor" dissenting views.
LesFalin Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 8:06 AM
Sola Scriptura says you are wrong, sir.
McGovern Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 7:59 AM
No.

True Protestantism does not allow each man to determine what scripture means.

Scripture interprets scripture.

The Church had turned it's back on that truth. That's why the Reformation took place. God was guiding His church on earth back into the truth of the scriptures.

That the truth is being perverted again is not the fault of Protestantism.
Semperfi/par Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 8:12 AM
I have been to the protestant churches and I am afraid Jim is right to an extent. Some pastors do what you say but many do not and they cherry pick the bible. The Church never turned its back on scripture. That does not mean that some people in the church did not turn their back. Many Protestants get beat over the head with their own Bibles because they cherry pick scripture out of context. Just an observation.
Scripture interpreting scripture is saying the Bible is your church and not Christ.
One of my readers reached out to me a couple of years ago with the hope that I could help him communicate with his prodigal nephew. The kid had grown up in a Christian home and seemed to be doing well until he enrolled at a local community college. It was there that he decided to abandon his conservative and Christian beliefs. Even worse than that, he decided to replace them by joining a neo-pagan cult. I will not mention the group by name as I do not want to give them more attention than they deserve.

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